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And this from beartooth bullets. 355 grain at over 2000 fps!

.444 Marlin Heavy Cast Bullet Load Development
All Loads Listed Below Developed Utilizing Bullets Of .432" Diameter
Beartooth Bullet Powder Charge Test Gun Ave Vel E.S. S.D. TEMP Group
325g WLNGC H322 49.0 444 S 2153 24.76 11.35 78 F 1.479"
325g WLNGC H322 49.0 444 P 2067 45.04 20.61 78 F 2.832"
325g WLNGC H322 51.0 444 S 2251 39.71 15.81 78 F 1.094"
325g WNGC H322 51.0 444 P 2122 39.81 16.73 78 F 1.189"
325g WLNGC H335 54.0 444 S 2191 62.92 28.87 78 F 1.043"
325g WLNGC H335 54.0 444 P 2057 36.48 13.85 78 F 0.997"
325g WLNGC H335 56.0 444 S 2249 64.15 32.00 78 F 1.343"
325g WLNGC H335 56.0 444 P 2170 38.86 19.51 78 F 1.844"
325g WLNGC AA2015 49.0 444 S 2085 26.87 11.48 72 F 1.646"
325g WLNGC AA2015 49.0 444 P 2060 29.63 15.68 72 F 0.939"
325g LCMNGC H322 49.0 444 S 2201 50.52 24.94 72 F 0.514"
325g LCMNGC H322 49.0 444 P 2072 36.82 18.76 72 F 1.494"
325g LCMNGC H322 51.0 444 S 2284 11.74 8.48 72 F 1.194
325g LCMNGC H322 51.0 444 P 2143 11.41 6.40 72 F .0.868"
325g LCMNGC VARGET 51.0 444S 1976 N/A N/A 84 F 1.254"
325g LCMNGC VARGET 51.0 444P 1829 31.00 15.26 84 F 0.441"
325g LCMNGC VARGET 53.0 444S 2016 9.93 2.44 84 F 1.472"
325g LCMNGC VARGET 53.0 444P 1896 13.18 8.89 84 F 0.541"
325g LCMNGC AA 2015 50.0 444S 2238 72.97 37.72 84 F 0.149"
325g LCMNGC AA 2015 50.0 444P 2130 32.54 16.52 84 F 0.736"
325g LCMNGC AA 2015 52.0 444S 2285 24.79 12.56 84 F 1.108"
325g LCMNGC AA 2015 52.0 444P 2163 56.51 38.28 84 F 2.352"
325g LCMNGC IMR 3031 46.0 444S 2015 64.68 35.00 82 F 1.805"
325g LCMNGC IMR 3031 46.0 444P 1929 71.41 40.70 82 F 1.285"
330g LFNGCDCG H335 54.0 444 S 2176 11.04 6.40 72 F 0.784"
330g LFNGCDCG H335 54.0 444 P 2080 15.91 8.06 72 F 1.886"
330g LFNGCDCG H335 56.0 444 S 2244 3.16 2.29 67 F 0.344"
330g LFNGCDCG H335 56.0 444 P 2080 32.50 16.79 67 F 1.566"
330g LFNGCDCG H322 48.0 444 S 2171 11.63 9.76 67 F 0.339"
330g LFNGCDCG H322 48.0 444 P 2024 31.46 15.22 67 F 1.448"
330g LFNGCDCG H322 50.0 444 S 2204 50.74 25.96 67 F 1.111"
330g LFNGCDCG H322 50.0 444 P 2113 9.67 6.40 67 F 1.969"
330g LFNGCDCG VARGET 50.0 444 S 1952 57.86 32.04 64 F 3.472"
330g LFNGCDCG VARGET 50.0 444 P 1806 21.67 11.91 64 F 0.318"
330g LFNGCDCG VARGET 52.0 444S 2027 7.98 7.64 79 F 1.039"
330g LFNGCDCG VARGET 52.0 444P 1919 17.84 8.71 79 F 0.924"
330g LFNGCDCG VARGET 54.0 444S 2100 11.75 8.90 79 F 0.863"
330g LFNGCDCG VARGET 54.0 444P 1977 8.28 9.89 79 F 1.209"
330g LFNGCDCG RL-7 45.0 444 S 2157 42.15 21.00 68 F 1.832"
330g LFNGCDCG RL-7 45.0 444 P 2050 31.52 15.55 68 F 0.555"
330g LFNGCDCG RL-7 47.0 444 S 2190 N/A N/A 68 F 1.786"
330g LFNGCDCG RL-7 47.0 444 P 2007 28.86 14.37 68 F 1.630"

355gWLNGC H322 43.0 444S 1974 10.07 5.29 81 F 0.978"
355gWLNGC H322 43.0 444P 1914 83.17 43.00 81 F 0.914"
355gWLNGC H322 45.0 444S 2034 25.94 13.60 81 F 1.588"
355gWLNGC H322 45.0 444P 1927 33.69 16.79 81 F 1.020"
355gWLNGC RL-7 43.0 444S 2063 39.83 20.09 81 F 0.752"
335gWLNGC RL-7 43.0 444P 1986 16.76 8.60 81 F 1.363"
355gWLNGC RL-7 45.0 444S 2154 61.45 30.99 81 F 0.762"
355gWLNGC RL-7 45.0 444P 2059 19.12 9.89 81 F 1.228"
355gWLNGC VARGET 49.0 444S 1887 50.99 26.34 80 F 0.802"
355gWLNGC VARGET 49.0 444P 1761 16.27 8.18 80 F 0.671"
355gWLNGC VARGET 51.0 444S 1964 73.29 39.35 80 F 1.813"
355gWLNGC VARGET 51.0 444P 1836 17.96 8.30 80 F 0.671"
405gWLNGC RL-7 37.0 444S 1837 N/A N/A 79 F 7.025"
405gWLNGC RL-7 37.0 444P 1794 16.34 8.48 79 F 2.284"
405gWLNGC VARGET 43.0 444S 1771 N/A N/A 79 F 5.942"
405gWLNGC VARGET 43.0 444P 1635 51.42 26.09 79 F 2.604

Pop,
I simply can not fathom ANYONE not having and caressing a 444 from Marlin.

You ought to be ashamed to even ask the question!

I've got a few now and I can not imagine life with out one!

You'd better sit down reflect on your lonely life:
with out a 444.



Regards
mike

I have a Marlin 444ss in .444Mar which is a great rifle but I see a Winchester 94 in .444Mar for sale does any one know about these 94's good or bad?
RLI

I do believe Win has quit making this model. I read a test report comparing Marlin accuracy and this model...by..fractions the Win won!

Depending on the price you paid or the price you are considering paying -NONE OF MY BUSINESS- is your call.

I suggest studying as many gun sites as you can.

Info collected will help you build a foundation upon which your decision can be made.

I know someone who has one and he has asked to fire my Marlin 444SS. He indicated that the Marlin kicked substantially less.

As far as accuracy, at 50 yds, my Marlin is a one hole shooter. It prints very tight groups at 100 yds.

I have never owned any Winchester 94 that came close to groups the Marlin is producing. Mine is a 1980 or 1981 production rifle.

Cheers and Good shooting
seafire

Seafire:

I did get a new Ballard rifled Marlin. Shot it this weekend with 56 gr of H335 and hornady 300 xtp....Get this. First group was a cloverleaf at 2130 fps. Second group was..... .306" shock!!!!!!!

Also shot the 355 gr Beartooth gas checked. 45 gr RL-7 at 2145 fps!!!!

PoP:

Congrats.!! I have never really seen a Marlin 444 that was not a shooter and a half.

All have been accurate unless someone was fiddling with loads they should not have been. I tried a 44 Mag rifle in a Marlin and 3 to 4 inch groups at 50 yds were the best it ever got. The 444 is the direct opposite.

I need to start my 444 Blue Dot Load Testing.

Cheers and Good shooting
seafire

Man I am waiting for that one. 180 gr at 1200 fps....nice plinking load!