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Marlin .444 going away?
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I have been reading about the virtues of this cartridge but it seems to have almost disapeared on the forums and with the factory ammo folks.
I was actually thinking about getting one...is it a mistake?


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Posts: 44 | Location: Buhl, Idaho | Registered: 14 November 2006Reply With Quote
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I like the rifle, but prefer the 45/70. If you reload 444 is ok. More ammo choices in 45/70 though.
 
Posts: 3174 | Location: Warren, PA | Registered: 08 August 2002Reply With Quote
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Depends what you're going to use it for. I bought one for a camp gun or varmintSmiler plinking.
bullet selection may be slim in local stores but you can order whatever weight and size you want off the internet. I love mine.
 
Posts: 115 | Location: Alberta, Canada | Registered: 25 October 2007Reply With Quote
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The .444 isn't going anywhere. If your not seeing anything on them you may just be missing a few threads. I own 45-70s, .450 and .444 and like them all but truthfully the .444 is my third choice of the three. I am going to hunt with a 1968 first model that I just mounted a brand new 1956 K2.5 in brand new 1960's pivot mounts. Made a really neat vintage set up. Here is my rifle and a link to .444 land. reflex264

http://www.marlinowners.com/forums/index.php/board,52.0.html



 
Posts: 78 | Location: TN | Registered: 04 June 2005Reply With Quote
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It should have gone away a long time ago ! Originally they loaded a pistol bullet which came apart at those high velocities.Slow twist limited bullet weight. With the now faster twist and heavier bullets it's better. I'll keep the 45-70 !
 
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Originally posted by mete:
It should have gone away a long time ago !


But it didn't.............which should be some testimony to its effectiveness as a short to mid-range big game masher.

I say if you're thinking about getting one B.C...........go for it.


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Posts: 764 | Location: slightly off | Registered: 22 March 2004Reply With Quote
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I have both a marlin 444, and a 45/70. I bought a bunch of very old 444 ammo for a very cheap price ($4.00/box). The "pistol bullets" will go through a 6" cedar intact, just like the 45/70.

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Posts: 930 | Registered: 25 December 2001Reply With Quote
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I have both the .444 Marlin and the .45-70 in lever guns.The .444 goes hunting with me sometimes. The .45-70 sits at home all the time.

I've got over half a dozen moulds for each of them, and cast my own bullets. Both are plenty acurate; both kill well.

I've nothing at all against the .45-70 except its trajectory beyond about 140 yards, and I can live with that as I use lever guns pretty much in situations where the shots are that short or shorter.

The .45-70 is plenty accurate at way farther out, but I mostly hunt by walking up game, rather than lying down on a knoll long-range sniping like some old buffalo hunter. So any less fiddling with hold-over (real or imagined) is appreciated when I hunt.

There is just something about my .444s that I like better, and I haven't felt "undergunned" with one yet.

If you have a yen for the cartridge, and hunt where its limits won't limit you, then I say, "Go fer it, laddie!!)
 
Posts: 9685 | Location: Cave Creek 85331, USA | Registered: 17 August 2001Reply With Quote
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The 444 Marlin is not going anywhere. A lot of people own them and Marlin is still making them. I have one now and had 3 others in the past. I also have a 45-70 Marlin.

Like them both and like the hard cast bullets in them both.


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Posts: 3142 | Location: Magnolia Delaware | Registered: 15 May 2004Reply With Quote
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The .444 will soldier on, but I wouldn't bet on the .450 Marlin. The Ballard rifling and faster twist make the .444 more versatile than when first introduced. The .45-70 is my personal favorite, and with light bullets comes pretty darned close to the .444 in bullet drop.


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Posts: 16699 | Location: Las Cruces, NM | Registered: 03 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I agree with the above post. The 450 was intended as an alternative to the 45-70 which is simply not needed. At least the 444 ofers something a bit different.

Id like to have a 444, I was kind of torn between geting one of them or a 358 but I went with the BLR.
 
Posts: 10190 | Location: Tooele, Ut | Registered: 27 September 2001Reply With Quote
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Most of my hunting is in open country and I haven't had a chance to hunt with mine yet. So I really can't atest to how effective it is on game, but I can tell you it is very accurate and a blast to shoot.



 
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Double AA, that sure is some nice wood you got there on the Marlin.


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Posts: 3142 | Location: Magnolia Delaware | Registered: 15 May 2004Reply With Quote
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I've been using the .444 Marlin since 1973, almost entirely with 265 gr. Hornady bullets in handloads. There is nothing in North America I wouldn't be willing to shoot with it up to 150 or 200 yards. Like some previous posters, I prefer to "walk-up" my game animals, and it works fine for that. If I was going to lay down & snipe really large game at a longer distance, I think rather than a .45-70 (which I also own), I'd rather just go straight-away to a .340 Wby or .338 Lapua.

Other than those two situations I'd still be happy if forced to just use an '06, .270, or .280...pay yer money, take yer choice.


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Posts: 9685 | Location: Cave Creek 85331, USA | Registered: 17 August 2001Reply With Quote
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AA:

That's just about, if not, the nicest wood I've ever seen on a Marlin. Beautiful.


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Posts: 17099 | Location: Texas USA | Registered: 07 May 2001Reply With Quote
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AA: Is that factory wood? Dude, the stars were aligned the day that rifle came home with you.


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Posts: 16699 | Location: Las Cruces, NM | Registered: 03 June 2000Reply With Quote
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AA, beautiful rifle! Mine is an early one, not as pretty, but shoots great with almost anything I feed it. coffee
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Posts: 6 | Location: Omaha, Ne. | Registered: 07 January 2007Reply With Quote
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I just bought a .444 Marlin and it´s perfect for all my needs. Here in Sweden it´s perfect for most of our game (moose,deer,boar etc.). If I know I´m going to hunt in open field, and the distance would be over 150 yards, I´ll use my .308 or 30-06.
I reload my own ammo, and the cost for my .444 ammo is just the same as for my other rifles. In Sweden the .444 isn´t the most common calibre, so one has to load them self. Otherwise the cost for one round would be 5-6$ !
 
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I have one and I could never get to shoot a good group , kicks like a mule .240 gr hornady .


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