I recently purchaced an old Winchester model 64. I've been trying to find a little information about it, but have found virtually nothing other than a few pictures of model 64s that look nothing like my newest acquisition. To begin with, the buttstock on my rifle is highly figured and is lacking the "grip" that I see on most available pictures. It also has a cresent steel buttplate. Next, instead of the standard single trigger, there exists a double set trigger. Also, on the far end of the magazine tube is a latch that folds very neatly underneath the tube itself. And finally, there is a band of steel that abuts the receiver at the rear end of the forend. The gun has been well used, and is by no means a museum piece. I tried to find a date of manufacture but was unsuccessful because of the early serial number which is in the 269XXX range. Anybody ever see such a thing? I'd sure appreciate a little feedback. Thanks.
Prob.

Looks as if you may have a take-down version. The latch and forend band suggest it. I've never heard of set triggers on a 94 type action but this may be some custom version perhaps even done by Winchester. Sounds wonderful though and would love to see pictures of it. Want to sell it?

You do indeed have a take down version. You must open the receiver lever, then pull down the little switch folded under the end of the magazine tube. Some of the earlier switches have patent dates on them. Once you open that you turn or unscrew the magazine and pull it out of the rifle. Then you simply twist the receiver and the fore arm. They will seperate. Theese are very cool. Set triggers are rare on theese but they certainly were available in DST and SST from the factory. A PG would make it a deluxe rifle and a straight stock is a standard Rifle. Measure the barrel. 26" is standard. What is the caliber ? I am going to wager a bet that it is a 32 special ! Why ???? Because your gun was manufactured in 1902 and that was the year that the 32 WS was released. Contrary to some belief the 32 was never a BP round nor was it intended to be. In regards to the highly figured stock In the time frame your gun was ordered Winchester always upraded the wood on special order rifles. So it is like 1X or 2X wood. There is even more good news for you. Winchester records exist for you gun and for $55.00 you can get a factory yellow sheet from waddy Colvert at the Buffalo Bill Historical Center in Cody Wyoming. This will break down the special order features. The sheets often do not include every upgrade though such as the wood or special order sights. What do the sights look like and is there any markings on them ??



Waddy Colvert

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The letters are very cool and worth every penny !

Howdy Chucky; Don't see ya down the Aussie/Nu Zulund page no more. Did ya soil da undies laughing, mate????

Oops, Sorry, Excuse please; got nuttin to do wid 64 Winnie, eh?

BAW, Well I still mosey Through but I have been so busy at deer camp I haven't been around much. Besides all those photos of Bakes makes me loose sleep. I did enjoy your recent photos and the cool hat. I had no idea what day you guys were talking about but it sounded like a holiday and a good time for all. The misses and I have high hopes of making it to ozz one day. If we ever get a chance to shoot together I shall feel obligated to make some custom targets of Flossy and Bakes back side !
Until then keep em in the 10 ring mate !

There is a bit of confusion in your post.If your rifle is a Model 64 then the serial number could not be in that range.

The Model 64 was made from 1933-1957,reintroduced 1972-1973.

269,000 would be the correct range for a Model 94.

WC

I was assuming that was a typo and it is a '94 based on the SN range and description. The '64 series was numbered in the '94 series and made as indicated above. The 1972-73 production passed 8,250 when the model was again discontinued. The '64 was issued with a plain walnut pistol grip stock in 25-35, 30-30, 219 zipper and 32 WS calibers. There were no upgrade wood options, set triggers or take down frames issued in the '64 series. Buttstocks were all of checkered steel shotgun types. Barrel lengths were from 20" to 26" the 26" only being issued in the 219 Zipper. A deluxe model was only different in that it had checkering and factory sling swivels.

After reading all the above posts, I'm thinking your rifle is an M94 that's been rebarreled with an M64 barrel.
Chuckwagon's descriptions of the two models of the original M64 are spot on.
Another point, the original M64's had a stock designed by Col. Townsend Whelen for Winchester as does the M71 in.348.
The later remake of the M64 had a somewhat bastardized (in my opinion) stock in comparison and does not quite have the feel of the originals. I can say that last comment because I have a Standard and Deluxe M64 Winchester, both 30-30s, and I have shot the remake version. No comparison in my book.
To check out my theory on the barrel switch, remove the forearm and magazine. There should be a two digit number stamped on the bottom of the barrel. That's when the rifle was made. However, if your serial number says 1902 and the barrel says say "38" then your rifle was rebarreled.
I had a chance to buy an M94 with a three digit serial number, but it was in .32 Win. Spl. The gun had been rebarreled at some time in it's history. I felt the price was way off due to the rebarrel.
Paul B.

I'd like to thank all respondents for the time and effort taken to answer my query. I certainly do appreciate it. I think Paul B is exactly right and it is the same conclusion I came to. Of course, without the input of the rest of you fellas I would have been guessing for a long time to come. After reading the instructions for the dissasembly of a takedown rifle, I promptly did just that. Upon further examination I can see evidence of refinishing, undoubtedly someone's idea of making an old rifle better. That's fine with me though, I suspected as much when I bought it. Price was right too.

Best regards,
Phillip