I have been looking for a mod 95 win centineal model Saddle Ring carbine in 30-06 for quite some time and finally found one...

These were made as a special run in carbine configuration in the late 1980s as I recall in limited production. This one is as new..Now all I have to do it take out that damn grip safety, tig up the hole and rust blue the repair and its good to go in the keeper corner of my gun cabinet..

It will be my thick black timber elk gun , and saddle scabbard elk gun loaded with 200 gr accubonds or 220 partitions.It will be fitted with a Lyman mod. 21 from Buffalo Arms..

Congratulations!
Nothing like a new 1895 to make a shooter happy.

https://huntershouse.dk/kat918...,-.303-British..html

.303 carbine for sale here in Denmark. Its been for sale for ages. The seller wants little over $2 grand for it. I doubt it will ever sell overhere for that money. The price may match the US market better.

Nice find! I'm always looking for another Miroku 1895, they are great shooters. Though the saddle ring "carbine" is humorous to me, as mine are every bit as heavy with the same barrel length as my .30-06 bolt guns. Actually, I have my 1895 .30-06 out on truck gun duty right now.


What is the Centennial 1895?

I assume the Centennial is 1995..It is a miruku made in Japan, but they are nice guns, except for the grip safety and Ill take that out and use the half cock option..

Weight and a long 95 isn't condusive to horseback, too long and awkard IMO..thus my need for the carbine, its some lighter and much shorter..I like 20", 22" 24" and 26" inch guns , there is place for them all, that's why the make make in different length, either that or to make you laugh! ..

The majority of my hunting is horseback and with iron sights to a somewhat lesser degree, but I have a Savage 99F in .308 and a 250-3000 99 takedown both with 22" barrels and scoped for option..If Im walking I have bolt guns, FTW mod-70, Mauser custom 98 in various calibers. I would not want to be a one gun man. I see it as the right tool for the job, but I could hunt the rest of my life with a 20" saddle ring carbine in 30-30 or 25-35 for that matter if push came to shove..

Ray, bless your heart, you still have the fire in your belly for a new elk rifle! May it long be so!

Miroku 1895s are probably my favorite. I wasn't aware they made a special edition SRC for the 1895, mine is a 30-06 100 year commemorative (the other two are .30-40s). Half the gold fill has worn away from use already but I dont care as I too will eventually add the Lyman repro sight.

I haven't tried the Nosler 220's yet, I keep going back to the Hornadys as they seem to shoot well from mine.
Odd thing I found, they have a 1:10 twist in the .30-06 with a slower twist in the .30-40s, something like 1:13 if I remember correctly.

Hawk Creek,
All those cool 1895 rifles and not one in .405 WCF?

Great to see your enthusiasm, Ray, but for the benefit of this greenhorn who has not actually used a Model 95: What is the problem with the grip safety?

Original 1895s did not have a grip safety. The inclusion is a modern, lawyerism.

I actually like the grip safety. But most folks do not. Anything is better than the frame mounted safety that Marlin and USRAs added.

Sman,
Ray means the tang safety.
For anyone accustomed to shooting SxS shotguns, the tang safety is a no brainer. I have a tang safety on my 1895 .405 and 1886 45-90, (and all double guns), but those rifles were bought specifically for hunting and not for reminiscing over the old Pony Express days.
Cowboy action shooters often want period guns and are prone to remove modern things.

I also have a couple of older Winchesters with period perfect safeties and they too are no brainers. When I get too old to remember which rifle I am hunting with, I will hang it up and begin writing memoirs.

You pays your money and takes your choice.
How others modify their firearms is of no concern of mine.

Browning made 1895s had no tang safety.At least the ones I owned did not.

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Originally posted by crshelton:
Hawk Creek,
All those cool 1895 rifles and not one in .405 WCF?

No, I dont have a .405 yet... But now that Winchester /Miroku brought the 95 back in .405 (and .30-06) for a SHOT show special maybe I'll get one this year.

Thanks CR. I notice the finger lever has two parts; does that have a grip safety cf the M94 or is it just to hold the lever closed?

A lot of my "need" for the mod. 95 SRC is "want and nostalgia" I don't need another gun, that's for sure...I grew up shooting lever action iron sighted guns, all my family and all our friends and relitives, all ranch people shot them..I had two uncles one hunted with a M-95 SRC 30-03 and shot 30-06s in it with milsurp bullets, the other a Mod 99 EG in 300 Savage and factory ammo, and my dads 250--3000 sav M-99..I was allowed a 25-35 until I proved I could take recoil, then I got a Savage 99 in 250-3000 and a Rem 722 in 257 Roberts for deer and elk, All family members trucked mules to Colorado hunted until filled out and sold the mules to local packers. We all met at Chimney Rock Store, They are all dead now including my brother, but lots of great memories and a lot of that nostalgia still hanging on! not to mention who wants a gun that hasn't been modified!

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Originally posted by sambarman338:
Thanks CR. I notice the finger lever has two parts; does that have a grip safety cf the M94 or is it just to hold the lever closed?

The 1895 has a grip safety so it cant be fired out of battery. Different from the 94 in that the 95 lever is hooked closed, that us why the lever is two pieces hinged together. There is also a sliding tang safety on the newer Miroku guns.

Thanks HawkCreek, I quite like the grip safety on my 94 Big Bore. The tang safety on my Miroku Win 86 was a waste of time, though, since it didn't stop the hammer falling. It may have even allowed the firing pin to touch the primer but we removed it and covered the slot with a tang sight before I thought to try the pencil-in-the-barrel trick. (A mate later showed that the safety on his ersatz M92 does work, by putting a piece of dowel in barrel, pointing it up and pulling the trigger. With the safety off, the firing pin shot the wood out the end; with it on, it went nowhere.)

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Originally posted by sambarman338:
Thanks HawkCreek, I quite like the grip safety on my 94 Big Bore. The tang safety on my Miroku Win 86 was a waste of time, though, since it didn't stop the hammer falling. It may have even allowed the firing pin to touch the primer but we removed it and covered the slot with a tang sight before I thought to try the pencil-in-the-barrel trick. (A mate later showed that the safety on his ersatz M92 does work, by putting a piece of dowel in barrel, pointing it up and pulling the trigger. With the safety off, the firing pin shot the wood out the end; with it on, it went nowhere.)

There's a notch out of the hammer that the tang safeties slide into. They stop the hammer from hitting the firing pin on all 4 of mine.

It may be so with mine, too, HawkCreek. My worry came from accidentally cycling snap caps with the safety on the first time, then noticing indents in their 'primers'. Do snap caps usually come with indents?

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Originally posted by sambarman338:
It may be so with mine, too, HawkCreek. My worry came from accidentally cycling snap caps with the safety on the first time, then noticing indents in their 'primers'. Do snap caps usually come with indents?

I've never noticed that but I've never looked specifically either. Next time I take mine out to shoot I'll do a little testing with the safety on. I assume yours was from the floating firing pin bouncing forward but live primers will tell.

the only thing I don't like about the new sliding safetys is its there! Im a nostalgic and took the safety out and tigged up the hole and it worked fine, but with the new one I now have I'll just leave it there, it really doesn't hurt a thing and maybe someday it'll come in handy!!

As I've said previously, Ray, if the safety works it can give assurance when testing live reloads for cycling and rifling clearance.

Unfortunatly I sold my new 95, the inside of the lever is quite small and recoil jammed my second finger into the front hard enough to cause a major flinch and turned the air blue..

I will clarify that as its won't be a problem with the average shooter and no fault of the gun, My hand had to be rebuilt a couple of years ago as I got it caught in a dally I call the wiley coyote..It healed thru surgery and time so that I can shoot and I can rope, but I can't take a hit on it, and that's no fault of a great rifle. and revolvers, before someone suggests wrapping my hand around the lever, the fingers won't quite open up enough for that..Reduced loads worked but my 30-30 works for that. I still love that mod. 95, but its just not in the cards.

Ray, I am very sorry about this disappointment. Sometimes you just don't know until you have the gun in hand and can shoot it some.
Hope you find a new object of desire soon!

Ray,
Me too on the .405 recoil whacking my knuckle.
It has only happened when testing 400 grain DG loads at 2050+.
I quickly learned how to work around what was only a bench rest problem and never happened when hunting.

CR, I bet that bugger does kick, The stock on the 95s is known for absorbing recoil to start with and that caliber pushes..I did get a chance to shoot in a hunting situation after I sold it and if I pull my hand back in the loop it worked much better, but Id have to concentrate on that..

Bill,
It was a bit of a disappointment as I sure like those 95s, but I'll go back to the Savage 99 308 and Im working on my Marlin 336 in 25-35 with a Leupold 2.5X Alaskan, its a neat rig..Its a great rig with 97 gr. GS Custom bullets at 2600 FPS and in the Marlin I expect to get a real 2700 plus.

Ray, I have a box of those 90-grain GS Customs and need to work up a load for the .25-35 Tomcat.

Fortunately, my 400 grain loads are pleasant to fire from my 9.5 pound Simson .405 double rifle and the 300 grain factory level loads are pussycats.

Sorry to hear you had to get rid of you 1895, Ray. The Miroku 1895's are my favorite (safety and round hammer notwithstanding). I'm thinking about ordering one of the new .405's when I get back home later this summer.

Bill,
Just got back from Dallas, I have those loads and will get them out to you tomarrow, they are incredibly accurate.