Got a peep sight for the mod.94. Never have done any load development for this gun, just shot at gallon milk jugs at 100 yds. Maybe I hit 'em, maybe I don't. I have tried sighting-in at 100 yds. on paper, but the front sight almost covers the whole target,(approx. 14"x 14") much less able see the bulls-eye. Can't hit what you can't see. What method do you use to sight-in irons, and mostly, at what distance?

I would sight it in 1 inch high at 50 that well put it just high at 100 dead on about 150.

The sights covering most of the target and having olders eyes are a couple of the reasons I use optics on all my rifles any more.

As handy as a open sighted rifle is if one can not hit what he is shooting at it does him no good.

Even a low powered scope is a great improvement.

On iron sight I sight in to put the target just above the top of the sight. Like the old diagrams of using a target pistol. You have to work with it a bit to get a circle of impact that is compatable with the game you are hunting.

You have to have a sight picture for sighting in that doesnt cover the little tiny target you will be seeing at 100 yards -

So put the front sight so that it is underneath your bullleye (4-6 inches in diameter) and just sitting on top of the post or bead.
You will be suprised how well you can shoot that rifle at 100 yards. But of course you have to start at 25 - 50 and then go to 100.

The point of impact should be right where the top of the front post is - at the bottom of the bulleye.

(Anything spot on to two inches higher than that at 100 yards is fine.)

With your aperture receiver sight, leave everything that way , and know that your point of impact when hunting is the top of the front post, thats where your bullets going to go.

With a bead front sight I adjust the POI so that its lower (still aiming at the same spot with the bulleye balancing on the front sight at 100m) so that the point of impact is actually in the centr eof the bead or an inch or two higher.
With a bead sight, it is more natural for me to shoot with both eyes open and use the bead as a like a red dot sight. But this is for hunting only, for target shooting you should hold on the target as I say earlier.
I have had two Winchester .30/30's and regularly use open sights with a front bead on Mauser type rifles - all could regularly shoot 1.5-2 inch groups at 100 yards this way, even the .30/30's.

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Originally posted by mikethebear:
On iron sight I sight in to put the target just above the top of the sight. Like the old diagrams of using a target pistol. You have to work with it a bit to get a circle of impact that is compatable with the game you are hunting.

This is what I do. With my 1894 using a Williams FP receiver sight, I have no trouble keeping 10 shots inside a 6" circle at 100 yards.

Proper sight picture is the key to using peep sights. I shot this group on a windy day with a receiver peep @ 100yds.

I sight in dead on at 150 yards..Some say you can sight in at 12.5 yards and the bullet will hit at 150 or be close, but I would be sure and check that out. With a 150 yard sight in you will be about 2 to 3 inches high at 100 and about 5 to 7 inches low at 300 as I recall, but I don't shoot the 30-30 at 300 these days, only did that in my youth. I have a personal limit of 200 to 225 yards or there abouts depending on circumstances.

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Originally posted by prplbkrr:
Got a peep sight for the mod.94. Never have done any load development for this gun, just shot at gallon milk jugs at 100 yds. Maybe I hit 'em, maybe I don't. I have tried sighting-in at 100 yds. on paper, but the front sight almost covers the whole target,(approx. 14"x 14") much less able see the bulls-eye. Can't hit what you can't see. What method do you use to sight-in irons, and mostly, at what distance?

The standard front sight on a 30-30 are not very good. If you can get a flat topped bead or use a file on your existing bead to flatten it on top you will be able to hold elevation much better. Windage is also easier with a straight sided flat topped front bead.

My 30-30 is sighted in at 50 yds 2,000 fps
170 gr fn 50 yds 5/8 " high , 100 yds 0 , 150 yds drops about 5" and 200yds 1 ft . My reloads ! 20 " BBL

Also, you can flatten out that old rainbow some with the new high-BC Hornady gummytips ...

Ditto on the gummy tips. In my 94 Carbine 32 special they shot 5" higher @ 100 than 170FNSPs with the same 4320 load. (best one from Pet Loads)
5 in 2" with a tang sight, Sourdough front (12" wide @ 100) and 7 decade eyes.

With irons, IMHO any 30-30/32 Special/35 rem/38-55 is a 150 yard rifle.

"You can't get too close"