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Just wondering,looking at the crescent butt plates,it's gotta hurt some when you pull the trigger,has anybody tried to install a recoil pad minus the metal plate & contoured it to fit the crescent shape of the butt? This would give then a straight edge to the stock
what would the L.O.P be with this arrangement & would it work?


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If you keep your loads between 1400-1500 fps then the crescent plate is not bad-as long as you shoulder the rifle properly. 1600 fps and up can be a little hard on the shoulder. Especially if you do not shoulder the rifle properly.

You can buy a leather wrap that covers the butt plate and does no damage to the stock. It laces up like a shoe string. Look around you should be able to find one. I am sure some guy's here have one.

I had a crescent butt plate on an 1885. I put a Winchester red rubber pad on the rifle. The fellow who did it for me did a great job. It looks factory. I had a picture of it. If I can find the picture I will post it. I am sure you can find a Winchester red pad some where. Tom.


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Tom,
I would appreciate the picture if you can find it,how did the length of pull work out? was the crescent cut out & the pad installed or it was left in place & filled with the pad?
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If you want to keep the gun 'right', get an extra stock and have the recoil pad installed and keep the original for show.
 
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This topic is very timely for me. I'm in the process of picking up a 1886 delux take down with the cresent but plate. I shoot some pretty stiff .45-70 loads for hunting so I am going to look for some type of pad.

I use limbsaver slip on pads on my big bore Marlins, but with the curvature of the 86 butt plate They will not work. I am not going to alter the stock so I need something that will slip over the present configuration. If anyone has any othe suggestions I'm all ears.


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JimZ,

just order the LW butt stock. It has the shotgun-style butt, and is very comfortable. Mine's a 50-110 now and 400gr at 2000fps is pretty easy to shoot.

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Idaho,
By LW you mean the light weight model correct?
Is it an easy fit?
Thanks.


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Best to find a shotgun style butt stock like comes on the extra-lite model rather than altering the cresent butt plate.

The problem with the crescent butt is that in addition to being crescent shaped, it is very narrow while the shotgun style butt is wider and spreads out the recoil better.

I had the opportunity to shoot two rifles one with the crescent style butt and one with the shotgun style butt. Both rifles had recoil pads added. The Crescent even with a pad added just plain hurt more.

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This topic is very timely for me. I'm in the process of picking up a 1886 delux take down with the cresent but plate. I shoot some pretty stiff .45-70 loads for hunting so I am going to look for some type of pad.

I use limbsaver slip on pads on my big bore Marlins, but with the curvature of the 86 butt plate They will not work. I am not going to alter the stock so I need something that will slip over the present configuration. If anyone has any othe suggestions I'm all ears.


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jnc91,
makes sense,thanks for your help.


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Thanks Guys,

Where would ber a good place to get another stock? Brownell's? The manufacturer is in JapLand. They must have a USA Office. I immagine it would have to be fitted also. Any suggestions?

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jim Z.

they are available at MIDWEST GUN WORKS,& if my information is correct the fitting does not require much.


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This is a picture of the Winchester pad I put on my Browning 1885 that had a crescent butt plate. Tom.



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It that an altered original stock, or is that a total new stock with a pad?

I like it.

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It is the original butt stock on my 1885 Browning in 45-70. If you look real close at the top of the stock you can see what is left of the steel crescent butt plate. This rifle is a shooter, not a safe queen. Tom.


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Thanks Tom, looks great. All my guns are shooters, no safe queens here either. I bought this 1886 to hunt and have fun with.


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If you hold it correctly it won't hurt you, if you stick the points in your shoulder it will..I have shot a hot loaded 45-90 all day long with a cresent butt plate..I wouldn't monkey with a good 1886 no way no how!


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Someone told me that a cresent steel plate was supposed to be positioned on the upper arm between the biceps and sholder. Is that right?

Nice bit of wood on the rifle above, and maybe the remaining metal could be used to inscribe something.

I had a similar problem putting a pad on an old M96 Swede. I just cut the timber down to make it look like the rear of a montie carlo stock, and tapped a flat base bullet into the screw hole. Finished up quite classy.
 
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I will have both 400 gr Barnes solids and TS flat nose bullets in about 6 weeks.The meplat is +- .345" and the both look aboput the same. OAL is +- 1.200" Any interest in them let me know how many you may want.


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Doug,
good news,do you have stock on the brass for the 475?


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Someone told me that a cresent steel plate was supposed to be positioned on the upper arm between the biceps and sholder. Is that right?


+1??

If this is what Ray means then it sounds pretty good. My M92s (crescent) don't kick that much, but if I get something bigger....


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jim Z.

they are available at MIDWEST GUN WORKS,& if my information is correct the fitting does not require much.


I've been pointed to this company before, and I can't seem to find stocks for the 1886 on their website . . .

http://www.midwestgunworks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT

????

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I could not find them either. I don't think I am going to change a thing on this rifle. It is operfect just the way it is. Maybe a ladder sight at some point we'll see.

coffee


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Troy Hibbitts,
just call them on the phone & talk to somebody in customer service!


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Brass is on the board and should have 475 Turnbull head stamped brass very soon from STarline. I have 400 gr. solids now and will have the first run in 30-45 days from Barnes in a 400 gr TS.


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You know, the more I think about it and the more I shoot my '86', I don't think i will change a thing. I shot my hunting loads through it and i do not have any problem. I think I'll keep this sweet shooter just the way it is. If'n it ain't broke don't fix it!

Just my $.02
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