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I just purchased a new production 1895 .30/06 takedown, the one with the tang safety. I did not get the manual with it, it's suppose to be coming...but how many cartriges does the mag. take?? Everything I read says 5 but mine only seems to take 4, is this right??

Also if you can help me out with the takedown feature that would be appreciated. There seems to be a little latch when moved forward frees up the barrel from the receiver, I applied some gentle twist and the barrel moved but did not release, is more force necessary or is there another step to the process for barrel assembly removal?

Just shot the rifle in the back yard off my four wheeler and put three bullets touching into the target from 75yds. Smiler SWEET!!
 
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Did you open the bolt?


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but how many cartriges does the mag. take?? Everything I read says 5 but mine only seems to take 4, is this right??


The factory manual says 4. Plus one up the spout.

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Also if you can help me out with the takedown feature that would be appreciated. There seems to be a little latch when moved forward frees up the barrel from the receiver, I applied some gentle twist and the barrel moved but did not release, is more force necessary or is there another step to the process for barrel assembly removal?


Did you pull down the lever?
To my understanding the bolt locks on the barrel (breech) when closed.


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No guys, I did not open the bolt, I knew I had left something out, should have known the bolt would have been locked on the breech, duh! So it's a 4 round mag., cool just wanted to know.

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Larry
 
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It is very important to only use the takedown feature with the bolt open. If you did not force anything You are probably ok, just remember to open the action before starting the takedown process. Also, when loading the magazine, They seem to load easier if you put the head in the mag with the rim down at an angle and then level the cartridge out. My mag also is a 4 rounder.
 
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Thanks for the info. Buckeyeshooter, I will definitely open the bolt in the future. The manual suggest loading the rifle as you suggested. The Finnish guy was kind enough to make it available to me and I read it carefully.

I knew I could count on you guys for good info.

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Here's another trick from the Finnish guy Cool

When emptying the magazine you don't need to pump the rounds in and out of the chamber: you take out the 1st round as advised in the manual, and then the second one (the top one in the mag) you slide out with your fingers, don't cycle the lever. So you slide the round out forward past the lips of the clip and then you can pick out the round as it hops up.
Now, the one below that will not rise to the feeding position, so you can cycle the lever once over it.
When you open the bolt, the round will be on top and you can extract it with your fingers again. The last one, again, will not rise up so you can cycle the lever over it, and when the bolt is open remove the round.

You'll have to work the lever in any case, so this is no more problematic that pumping the rounds out via the chamber; however as the rounds are not chambered this is a lot safer.


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Schauckis, thanks again, I just tried your tip and it of course works fine, great for unloading the gun in a really safe manner.

Sorry I referred to you as the Finnish Guy, but I tried to memorize the spelling but my wife said something to me and I lost it in my mind. I didn't want to get out of the post to check the spelling again.

Is the Winchester 95 popular in Finland? I wouldn't have thought so. What other American guns are popular there. What do you hunt with your rifle, if you do hunt with it? What caliber is your 95?

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Sorry I referred to you as the Finnish Guy, but I tried to memorize the spelling but my wife said something to me and I lost it in my mind.


No worries; I'm still chuckling...

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Is the Winchester 95 popular in Finland? I wouldn't have thought so. What other American guns are popular there. What do you hunt with your rifle, if you do hunt with it? What caliber is your 95?


I wouldn't go so far as to call it "popular", and not even commonplace anymore. But you see, Larry, living neighbor to the Russians quite a few of the 350,000 guns delivered there in 1917-1918 found their way to Finland, as well.
Thus, the most common caliber is the original 7,62x53R (which for some to me unknown reason is called 7,62x54R everywhere else). At a recent gun show I spotted more than 10 weapons for sale, ranging from original or near-original full-stock carbines to strongly modified re-stocked and scoped guns. The price range was from approx. 200 Euros to 1000 Euros!! That was a matching-numbers Russian military model with the "ears" for the ammo clips and all.
If you're after a working rifle then 300 Euros is top dollar.

Many a gun was converted to 8,2mm or 9,3mm as after WWII military calibers were prohibited as hunting weapons, and for Scandinavian moose the law required a minimum of 8mm in caliber. The ready availability of the 8,2mm (.323) bullets from the German calibers (8mm Mauser) made that a logical choice, and for those wanting something larger they went for the 9,3mm.
The 9,3x53R a.k.a. 9,3 Finnish is today fairly rare, and Sako no longer loads the ammo. I'm afraid the 8,2x53R that I have will soon see the same fate. Sako no longer loads the 123gr full metal jacket practice ammo, so unless you handload, your choice is the 200grs Sako Hammerhead. @ 2525fps a good load, for sure, but the Hammerhead never was the best bullet.

My main quarry is moose, but also when I get the chance roe deer and whitetail deer (which was planted here in the 1970's and some 22,000 animals are harvested every year), plus wild boar which I hunt in Estonia. The next hunt is in January, and in the interim me and my father will go to Austria for a hunt!
For pigs it's a dandy weapon due to the fast reloading.
I also hope to get the chance to shoot bear some day.

Of the other American guns for sure the most common is the Remington; you see some Rugers which is coming stronger now with a new importer, and of course the Marlin lever actions, often in .45-70.
Other makes of American guns I'd say are rare, the majority of hunters going for the Sako and Tikka rifles, of course. Also the other European brands are popular despite being expensive.


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Thank you for your interesting response. I thought that perhaps some of the Russian contract rifles might have made their way to Finland.

I intend to hunt whitetail deer with my mod. 95 with a somewhat reduced load. As the ranges I intend to hunt with this rifle will be short, I think I will cook up a load with a 150 gr bullet moving at say 2600 fps. This should handle my needs with out streaching the brass excessively. I may work up a cast bull load for plinking and just plain fun shooting.

This rifle is a bit too heavy for the way we hunt hogs, and too pretty. My primary weapon for boar hunting is the knife as we hunt with dogs. I often carry a .41 mag. revolver and sometimes an Austrian mod. 95 in 8x56R carbine. This carbine is very light, I have a red dot sight mounted on it which makes fast to get on target and it is sufficently ugly that I do not have to worry about putting dings and scratches on it.

Anyhow again thanks for your response and tips, and good luck with your model 95.

Larry
 
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