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Marlin 336 vs Win 94 recoil/30-30 vs .35?
26 June 2010, 18:46
Bernie P.Marlin 336 vs Win 94 recoil/30-30 vs .35?
Years back I had a 94 in 30-30.I was surprised by how hard it kicked.I've been thinking about getting another lever gun to keep handy in the truck just in case.I like the looks of the Marlin better.Is the Marlin about the same recoil wise with the same load?Also is there a noticeable difference between the kick of the 30-30 vs .35?
27 June 2010, 00:09
Alberta CanuckLet me start by saying this is just my opinion, not etched in stone facts....
I personally think the Marlin kicks less with the same ammo in most cases for two reasons...it usually has a pistol grip stock and a semi-beaver-tail forend. At least, the forend is usually fatter on modern Marlins than on the traditional Winchesters.
Both of those give the shooter's hands more to hang onto, and spread the recoil over more area.
Also, Marlins are more likely to be scoped than the traditional Winchesters were. That tends to cause the shooter to hold his head up more, which also helps lighten the perception of recoil for many people. An erect, natural, stance frequently produces less felt recoil than a position where one is hunched over trying to look through open iron sights.
But, of course, as people are built differently and therefore are better fitted by different stocks and sights, perceptions DO vary.
In my own instance, I have noticed little or no difference in the recoil of factory ammo in either the .30-30 or the .35 Remington. The .35 Remington cartridge does push a little heavier bullets and recoil would logically therefore be a tad more.
But in actual fact, at the velocities actually achieved by that .35 round, the recoil MIGHT be a little bit less. Anyway, I have noticed no particular difference.
Though it isn't traditional in appearance, if the recoil is more than you want to put up with, you could always have a good recoil pad installed on either the Winchester or the Marlin.
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27 June 2010, 04:07
N E 450 No2quote:
Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
Let me start by saying this is just my opinion, not etched in stone facts....
I personally think the Marlin kicks less with the same ammo in most cases for two reasons...it usually has a pistol grip stock and a semi-beaver-tail forend. At least, the forend is usually fatter on modern Marlins than on the traditional Winchesters.
Both of those give the shooter's hands more to hang onto, and spread the recoil over more area.
Also, Marlins are more likely to be scoped than the traditional Winchesters were. That tends to cause the shooter to hold his head up more, which also helps lighten the perception of recoil for many people. An erect, natural, stance frequently produces less felt recoil than a position where one is hunched over trying to look through open iron sights.
But, of course, as people are built differently and therefore are better fitted by different stocks and sights. perceptions DO vary.
In my own instance, I have noticed little or no difference in the recoil of factory ammo in either the .30-30 or the .35 Remington. The .35 Remington cartridge does push a little heavier bullets and recoil would logically therefore be a tad more.
But in actual fact, at the velocities actually achieved by that .35 round, the recoil MIGHT be a little bit less. Anyway, I have noticed no particular difference.
Though it isn't traditional in appearance, if the recoil is more than you want to put up with, you could always have a good recoil pad installed on either the Winchester or the Marlin.
I have owned both Winchester and Marlin 30/30's and I agree with AC's assesment.
The 35 Rem is a good cartridge, one of my sisters in law hunts with a Remington pump in 35, but I would prefer the 30/30 as ammo is much easier to find.
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27 June 2010, 18:30
Mad DogI've had both the 94 and the 336, in both .35 and 30-30. If I was picking, today it would be the Marlin, in 30-30. Better gun, and you can get 30-30 ammo, anywhere.
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28 June 2010, 08:26
dwheelsI have also had both and prefer the Marlin. I haven't owned a 35. It seems to me the Marlin has a bit better fit and finish as well.
28 June 2010, 19:07
Bernie P.Thanks all!I'll go with the Marlin.Still plenty of time to decide between the cals.
30 June 2010, 08:01
buckeyeshooterI can not tell a bit of difference between the 3 and I have one of each.
I like the looks of '94 better, just personal prefference. Recoil?????
06 July 2010, 08:15
.Dirty-.30Can't go wrong with a vintage Marlin rifle!!
If you shoot a Marlin, you should be on Marlinowners.com
You can also get a single shot 12 gauge and shoot some turkey loads through it, and it will magically cut the 30/30 recoil in half! <G>
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22 July 2010, 06:15
DuggaBoyeIt might be only perception--
but I agree with AC and 450-
the pistol gripped Marlin "seem" to recoil
less, and control easier.
(And I hate those old Crescent Butt Plates on the 1886, much prefer the shotgun butt and also the pistol grip of the Mod. 71)
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24 July 2010, 19:15
Dr. LouMarlin in 35 Rem. The only M94 I am interested in is the BB in 356.
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30 August 2010, 03:23
KY JimI have a 336 in .35. Doesn't kick much, just SOUNDS like it does.
10 September 2010, 19:46
thndrchikenI've had 336's in 35 and 30-30 and m94's in 30-30 and 307, the Marlins definitely have a more shooter friendly profile and in my opinion perceived recoil is less than the 94's. Probably due more to a better fit.