Lets try this again....I'm looking for a .22 LR rimfire semi auto.

It must be reliable and accurate and price is secondary...not that price is unimportant...it's simply a waste if the rifle misfeeds and isn't accurate.

Accuracy to me means hitting a nickle consistently at 50 yards and reliable means malfunctions once every 250 rounds at the most

Who makes this rifle?

A nickel at 50 yards is fairly easily doable with a Ruger 10/22 with a Volquartsen barrel like I have. Never had a failure to feed.
Peter.

CZ 512 (new), CZ 581 used

My 1st choice if buying an semi auto rifle in .22 LR would be a Volquartsen-many choices of models, stocks & weights. My Vol in .22 Mag is very accurate. My 2nd choice would be a Ruger 10-22 but would probaly need to add an after market trigger & barrel- probably a Lilja alread chambered.
Good luck!

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Volquartsen

Build your own!!

Start with a receiver from Kidd Innovative Design http://coolguyguns.com/webstore/ or Tactical Solutions http://www.tacticalsol.com/

Add a barrel from Whistle Pig http://wpgbc.com/ and you will be well on your way.

There are more options than I can even keep track of. Hell, there are entire forums devoted to just this topic. It boggles the mind!!

Or just buy a complete rifle from Volquartsen https://www.volquartsen.com/ It won't be nearly as frustrating, fun or addictive.

With all the quality components available your goal of nickle-sized groups at 50yds is easily doable. The only limit is your imagination and your wallet.






and yea, I just pulled these pics offline as examples of what you can end up with.

IMHO there is only 3 22LR rifles to consider.

First the Classic Browning. Its main advantages are it is very reliable and it takes down...

Second the Ruger 10/22. you can go with a factory model, or a custom gun. They will take High cap magazines and can be made very accurate.
It can be had in so many variables that it is a best choice, no doubt.

Third might be the Browning, that looks like a "pistol" with a long barrel and a shoulder stock. I pick this one as a choice only because you could have a pistol that takes the same magazines, that would be good for logistics, but I have no experience with either the Browning rifle or pistol.

I do wish S&W made a quality 22 LR Rifle baised on the S&W mod 41 pistol...


PS., once upon a time, I did have one of the H&K model 270,22 LR rifles. It was very reliable and very accurate. Sadly it is no longer avialable.

Still everything considered, it is hard to beat some kind of Ruger 10/22...

well since price isn't really a consideration, i do have this grade III belgium browning that i could be talked into parting with for a price of course

Not sure on the accuracy part but a Win. 63 functions super and is a real classic. The repros are probably just as good but if price isn't a problem...
C.G.B.

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Originally posted by butchloc:
well since price isn't really a consideration, i do have this grade III belgium browning that i could be talked into parting with for a price of course

I was at your place Saturday....left a stock with Carol to checker and stopped by and then on to my mothers funeral near Kasson Sunday.....obviously you wasn't working Saturday......but we might be able to consider this option...

PM me with details please.

i was out at the range putting holes in a piece of paper saturday. sorry to hear about your mother. so far as the browning goes - well 1st mortgages or contract for deeds are considered

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1st mortgages or contract for deeds are considered

Maybe I'll pass then....I'm not into long term payments!

For those that have them...in the 22 LR version....are these accurate rifles?

yes-the only problem with them can be the bottom ejection. when leaning out of the car window shooting a crat in the ditch, the bolt handle can sometime with the window, fouling up a quick 2nd shot

The little Browning take-down is a classic design that I own and enjoy shooting, both the Belgian Browning and a couple of Remington Model 24's built on the same patent, and they are certainy accurate enough for informal iron sight shooting. HOWEVER, the fact that the barrel is joined to the receiver with an interrupted thread and a jam nut introduces a variable that makes this design typically less accurate than other designs like the 10/22. Certainly, it is a much better made rifle than the 10/22, but its potential for accuracy is limited, most particularly if you intend to use a receiver-mounted scope (the barrel and the scope tend to line up a little differently every time the barrel is removed and replaced.)

The 10/22 requires a replacement trigger in order to start to be a serious accuraccy competitor, but that modification alone (even with the factory barrel) produces a .22 that is in most instances more accurate than the Browning design.

The best made 22 L.R. is the old Win. mod. 63 and its also the most accurate so all the 22 rifles I have shot over the years. I have a couple of them and made myself a custom with quarter rib and the works with fancy Russian Circasian walnut stock, but I sold that one for big bucks..I still have my old one that I grew up with..I have owned many 22s but none as good as the old 63s.

Another vote for the Volquartsen -- especially with the light tensioned barrel and Baraccuda thumbhole stock.

I just picked up a used one and I took it to the range to test functioning - 300 rounds no misfeeds with a variety of ammo I found around my ammo box.

The longest distance I had acess to was 25 meters and shooting off a single sandbag and shooting just slow enough to keep the rangemaster off my tail for rapid firing I put 20 rounds into a 2" target in less than 25 seconds including a reload. 10 of the shots were under an inch, another 5 or 6 opened it to about 1.5" and the other 4 or 5 opened it to 2".

Scope was a 3x9 and it was the first magazine that really spread the group --- the last were all centered.

For a gun almost as old as Ray I thought it was pretty good shooting especially with a new gun and trigger -- a really great trigger.

My two grandson's love their Anschutz sporter's but I think they will ask GrandPa to swap them out for a 10-22 from Volquartsen's.

I going to get one with a Hogue stock to keep in the back of the truck.

Shots on a nickel are nice but I prefer a quick 10 shots into a couple of inches much more.

I find the T/C semi auto interesting. You may want to look at it.

The Win 63 is a classic. I would think open as issued sights only though. Don't bubba a classic.
The Ruger 10/22 is a fun gun. Options are limitless. I have 2. One w/ an aluminum barrel, another w/ a heavy stainless barrel. BOTH have the KIDD trigers. Easy drop ins and IMO, much better than the Volq. Both shoot CCI mini mags very well at 50yds w/ the unexplained flyer as referenced by Saeed's testing in these forums. You can build one that will shoot for around a grand sans scope.Have fun. My 9 yr old Godson and I go to the gun club and spend all afternoon w/ 2 bricks of ammo for about 35 bucks.

I may be lambasted here, but I have a beat to hell Winchester Model 190 with a no-name 4x scope on it. It will put a CCI Mini-Mag or CCI SGB bullet in almost the same hole as much as I want to shoot it at 50 yards with a good rest. This picture is a 50ft NRA/NCAA target that I shot at 50 yards with a wooden block and a sock on top of it for a rest in December before squirrel season. The glare is bad, but that is a quarter not a nickel. All the "missing" is me from the weird rest, not the gun.



Here is a picture of the gun.....yes that is camo paint all over it and the scope. It has killed many a squirrel.



Maybe I just got a great gun from my Dad 30 years ago and it is a fluke.

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For those that have them...in the 22 LR version....are these accurate rifles?

They are plenty acurate enough for an off hand ironsighted 22LR field rifle.
It is one of my favorites.

They are not "super accurate."

For a super accurate semiauto some sort of Custom rifle baised on the Ruger 10-22 is the way to go.

Try Magnum Research I have a .22LR and .22WMR they come already set up with an excellent trigger,carbon fiber barrel or ss. integral bases
well worth the money .

Wow you guys are really hard core on the hi dollar 22's. I have a 25+ yr old Marlin Model 60 that shoots like a HI dollar 22. Me and my Buddy Buuba used to shoot Certs and Life Savers at 20+yds off hand. That damn Marlin is the most accurate 22 I've ever shot. Made an off hand shot using CCI Stingers on a Robin at a walked off 96yds. She still shoots perfect. I built my son a heavy barreled 10-22 and I can still out shoot it. Paid $63.00 in 1979(I think) for it at Gibson's in Baytown. First gun I ever paid for.

If you want a full sized .22 autoloader check around on Gunbroker or Gunsinternational for a Weatherby Mark XXII. Not the new bolt action from Anchutz but the old model that was made in Japan. They are beautiful rifles and shoot wonderfully. I have one that has well over 100,000 rounds through it and it still shoots pretty well.

The H&K 270 usually shoots quite well but is no longer manufactured.

You should check out the Thompson Center 22lr semi-autos. The are extremely well made and reasonably priced.