Comments appreciated on mounting a red dot optic on my GSG-5 .22.... in the past have always gone with a scope but from what I have heard these work well....

I have one on a Beretta Neos. Works well. Simmons, about $35.

I have one on my S&W model 22. It works extremely well! Scopes might work better at longer ranges where the red dot might cover the target.
Peter.

Hey Bill, I have no idea what a GSG-5 is, but if it is a revolver or pistol, I agree with Sam and Peter.

Met a guy at the Range one day who had a Ruger 22LR Pistol with a Red Dot(or so I thought) on it. His Ruger had the barrel thinned in three spots similar to that new Remington rifle. With the Electric Sight on it, the Ruger felt as heavy as my 5.5" Bull Barrel Ruger.

His Electronic Sight had multiple Reticle options which he could change with a dial. And he used it in some kind of Timed Shooting contests.

Also have a good buddy with a Red Dot on a 357Mag S&W. Peter's comment about the size of the actual Dot is good insight. My buddy's Red Dot is(I think) 4MOA and works well on Cat/Dog/Fox/Coyote size critters.

The only bad thing I see about them is how you intend to carry it. They do not fit in holsters real well, unless it is the Cut-Away Front style.

I've been looking at the real small Reflex Style Red Dots which are about 1.5oz. The ones I've located run from about $49(NC-Star)<->$400(Trijicon) with the Burris Reflex in the $189<->$210 range.

The NC-Star looks like a deal until you read the Reviews.

The last one that caught my attention is a Pentax H520 which was about $60. Haven't done enough research on it yet to know if it is worth the money or not. Everyone that has the Burris raves about how good it is, that I've seen.

If you get one, let us know what you get and how well it works.

The GSG is a rifle along the lines of an AR. I have red dots on my two Bullseye pistols and they work great in that application. Assume it should on the rifle as well. Will report....

I have been using Electronic Red Dot Optical Sights on .22 LR Handguns since 1990 or so. For Handguns intended for Target Shooting I think they are GREAT.

With that said, for hunting applications the size of the DOT MATTERS as to home much of the intended quarry it will cover. Another issue in regards to hunting is low light. I have found that with most of the Electronic Red Dot Optical Sights the red causes lots of glare even when on the lowest intensity setting.

The expection to this is my new Burris Fastfire. The Burris uses a light sensor that adjusts the intensity of the dot according to available light, and actually works quite well. I have my Burris Fastfire mounted of a Stainless-Steel Ruger MKII 5 1/2" Bull Barrel Handgun using Burris' Mount that fits in the dovetail for the rear sight. This really makes a neat mount and it weighs about as much as the open sights did.

With all that said I have never used an Electronic Red Dot Optical Sight on a Rifle. Even on my home made version of the Ruger SR-22 I am running a scope on it. I guess I buy into the thought that I can not hit what I can not see and prefer magnification.

It largely depends on what you want to do with your GSG-5. If it is to be a plinker for bouncing tin cans around then I am quite sure you'll be pleased with an Electronic Red Dot Optical Sight. However if you want more precision a Scope may be a better option.

Larry

i put a holographic dot on a gs-5 & it works well for quick shooting. not so good for precise shooting

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Originally posted by billinthewild:
The GSG is a rifle along the lines of an AR. ...

Ah-ha, thank you for the info.

That being the situation, that is why I was looking at the Reflex Sights. I have a 444Mar XLR with Williams Fire Sights on it and they are significantly better than the original Iron Sights. And I have a Weaver Base on it which is made with a deep groove down the center which allows you to see the Irons or Fire Sights on mine when the scope is removed and the Base is still in place.

Kind of thought the Reflex "might" be nice on it, since it is a relatively short range rifle with adequate Horse Power. Even a 5MOA Red Dot at 100<->175yds would not hide a Deer that I'd consider Killing.

I can see where it would not be the best for small critters at distance though.
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Also wanted to try the same Reflex Red Dot on a light weight Marlin 880SS 22LR. I have one a set of the Weaver Adapter Bases which secure to the regular 3/8" Groove, so the Reflex could attach to one of them. Might be a bit too high, but that could be all wrong.

Anyway, that is what my interest in them is about. But Butch's comment about the accuracy has me rethinking the issue for the M880SS. May just need to stick with an Illuminated Scope for it. The idea is to be able to use it on Squirrels when the trees still have leaves on. I'd think either a Red Dot or Red Crosshair would stand out well against the leaves.

Best of luck to you all.

I ordered a Konus Atomic Pro...will be here Thursday....will report on the thread I started on my GSG-5.

I have a red dot on my Ruger mk2 and also on my Savage 110, and also on my thompson. They work very well.

I have a red dot on a Ruger MKIII Target.

If you use the top edge of the dot for your aimpoint you will not have the "My gun shoots beter than 3 MOA" problem. At longer distances you can use the bottom of the dot.

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Originally posted by billinthewild:
I ordered a Konus Atomic Pro...will be here Thursday....will report on the thread I started on my GSG-5.

I am not pleased with the Konus for two reasons. Fit, finish and size are excellent. BUT, the dot itself is not crisp which lends itself to an imperfect and inconsistent point of aim. Secondly, they claim to offer a variable intensity level but I find that the dot is only visible at the highest setting. I compared it to the Ultra Dots I have on my bullseye pistols and there is no comparison. I would not recommend it.

Bill, Ultradots are the standard by which I measure other red dots. They also cost over $100. How much was your Konus? I have a Konus spotting scope and I am very pleased with it. It is price competitive with other quality scopes. The advantage of the Ultradot is that it does not "flare" when the intensity is turned up eg. when shooting in bright sunlight. Tasco red dots do flare quite a bit. I have an Ultradot on my High Standard trophy just because it is very precise and does not flare.
Peter.

Have an Ultradot on a S&W 617. Great combination

I sent the Konus back. I mounted an older Millett and shot with it today. Works great. Clear, crisp dot, and several intensities that work. By the way, I am very pleased with my new GSG. Great fun, accurate, and functions well.

Many of the less expensive red dots do not stand up well to recoil, and have excessive parallax. I've had tascos and bsa's go bad from recoil. I currently use the ultradot, but it is expensive.

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Originally posted by swampshooter:
Many of the less expensive red dots do not stand up well to recoil, and have excessive parallax. I've had tascos and bsa's go bad from recoil. I currently use the ultradot, but it is expensive.

The Ultra Dot is great. Had my Millett not worked I would have gone there. I use them on my bullseye pistols.

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have excessive parallax

That is an excellent point swamp! I noticed that to my horror on a Tasco that I have. What can I do?
Peter.

I have a red dot on a Smith & Wesson revolver 6".....IIRC it's a Tasco....love it,.....extremely accurate!

On the recommendation of a friend I put a Bushnell RD on my Mberg 835 slug gun.It shoots great but won't win any awards for low light gathering.Here in NY big game is sunrise to sunset so that's really not an issue.I haven't put many rounds through with it but my friend has used his for years without any failures.I think it would work just fine on a .22.

Peter, about the only thing you can do is try to keep the dot in the center of the scope. This will minimize the effects of excessive parallax.

I replaced the Millett on my GSG today with a Leapers long eye relief 4 power. Works great.

Put the Millett on my Golani-Galil....even better!

Swamp, agreed, but not easy to do!
Peter.