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Any recommendation as to a highly accurate .22 pistol? Mostly to be used for target work. | ||
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Strapman, by "target work" do you mean Bullseye shooting? If so, then my recommendations would be: S&W Model 41 High Standard Trophy. There may be others. Go to your local range and see what the Bullseye shooters are using. Often people say "target shooting, but do NOT mean Bullseye shooting. In that case a S&W model 22A with a red dot sight is X ring accurate at 25 yards, but the trigger is not good enough for off hand (one handed) shooting. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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If you can afford it, look at Hammerli. I had a Smith 41 but for me I found I could shoot just as well with my Ruger Government slab side. A few top bullseye shooters I know use Hi Standards but I am cautioned that there is a real difference between the older ones (excellent) and the new ones (not so hot). And if you are talking bullseye, mount an Ultra Dot 25. On the Ruger I also recommend the Volquartzen trigger kit. Good shooting. "When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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My golly! I didn't even know that there were any "new" high standards available! Have always been partial to the Military Citation that I bought many years ago for $60 including the barrel weights and compensator. Has always run like a champ and been more accurate than me. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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Mike.....I'll give you $100.00 for it.... ![]() By the way....I tried out a few pistols when I was away this past week. One was a Browning Buckmark...very impressive. "When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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Obviously not for Bullseye competition, but IIRC, the most accurate .22 pistol the NRA ever tested was a Freedom Arms. For current Bullseye and fun semi-auto shooting, I'd recommend a Volquartsen or Smith 41. Need to save money, a Ruger with a good trigger. Old Hi-Standard Victors can be found in good shape for reasonable prices compared to a Smith 41 as well. The Hi-Standards are nice because of their "quick change" barrel system, can have one set up for targets and one scoped or dotted for hunting. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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"Made" right here in Houston not too far from my office. Not sure if the major parts are produced here or shipped from overseas but they are definitely NOT the same fit and finish as the originals. But they sell for the same price as a good used one. They also make the old AMT Auto Mag compact pistol, a line of 1911 pistols, AR and AK rifles. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Walther, although most models are hard to find in the US. | |||
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Sorry I guess I should have been more specific. My Trophy is about 30 years old. I have no personal experience with the "new" High Standards but have heard anecdotally that they are not as good as the originals. I have the original 5 1/2 and 7 3/8 in. barrels, but it now sports a Volquartsen 5.5" barrel with a red dot sight Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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The most accurate and comfortable 22 pistol I have ever shot is the High Standard HD Military. I don't understand WHY it has been so terrific, but it has.....and I love it. | |||
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I've been told by Bullseye shooters that the Houston High Standard has been improved to the point that it is now as good as the older ones, but I have not been able to verify that.. I have three older High Standards, I'm getting ready to put a new frame on one of my older guns as the old frame is cracked. The older High Standards should be shot with standard velocity ammo only. The quality of the new S&W 41's leaves a lot to be desired. I know of three purchased recently that have all been sent back to the factory. The dealer says he won't sell them anymore, too much trouble. The Browning Buckmarks have aluminum frames and there are practically no after market accessories available for them. The trigger needs a professional gunsmith's attention. Ruger barrels leave a lot to be desired, if formal, target winning accuracy is what you're after. But Clark or Volquartsen can take care of that. For informal target shooting, hunting or just plinking the Ruger Mark 111 with a Volquartsen trigger kit installed is your best bet, or a Clark or Volquartsen Ruger if you don't mind spending over $1,000.00. Other models, such as the S&W 22A should not be considered in my opinion, unless cost is a major factor. The S&W 22A leaves a lot to be desired, but is actually a good value for the cost. velocity is like a new car, always losing value. BC is like diamonds, holding value forever. | |||
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Strapman, I'm a bullseye competitive shooter, and currently use a S&W Model 41. It is very accurate, and utterly reliable. My gun likes CCI Standard Velocity 40 grain bullets. I also have a 38 year-old High Standard Victor .22 target pistol I bought new in 1973. It too is very accurate and reliable. I seem to shoot better scores with the S&W, probably because it is a bit heavier, which I think reduces wobble, plus it has a slightly larger grip or stock, which seems to fit my hand better. Both are excellent pistols; you can't go wrong with either one. Regards, Bill. | |||
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Beretta 76,if you can find one! I tend to use more than enough gun | |||
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I am going to have to disagree with waterrat. I owned a Beretta 76 and it was NOT a target pistol in the sense of Bullseye target pistol. It WAS an accurate plinker, but I have NEVER seen one the firing line of a Bullseye Match. It is an older gun, and, newer guns (the S&W 22 for example) come with easy scope or red dot mounting which enhances the accuracy potential. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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A local dealer has one of the new HS Supermatic Trophys' with the longer barrel. It runs rings about my Series 70 GC Ciener kit. Rich I just need to convince myself to shell out about $600 (with tax) to get him to order me one. | |||
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For target shooting, there is nothing to beat the Hammerly and Walther GSP. | |||
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Yep... You can compete with a HS or SW41 but a Hammerli and Walter are the way to go. Both also have quick change tops for 32S&W for the centerfire bullseye matches. Ciener (and it's clones) makes nice plinkers, Marvel is the way to go for a 1911 kit.
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i would like to give a s&w 41 a try,if i ever find a deal on one. | |||
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I have two high standard sportkings from the (im guessing) 60s with 6 inch barrels. I remember my dad paying 38 dollars to the sears cataloge for one, still excelent condition.. I bought another so both my sons could inherit one.. both shoot extremly well with true target pistol ammo such as noble or aquilla. the crappier looking one last summer shot 5 rounds in a 5/8 inch group at 25 yards with a very good rest and lots of practice.. Its interesting to note the rear sight is way off to the right but it shoots dead on.. this gun has been thru hell and is still a shooter.. I paid 145.00 last summer at a pawn shop for it.. these guns are phenominal.. The ammo is the true key for beginers and any rimfire gun. for example remington target costs twice as much as agilla and has 4 times the group spread with my guns.... dave hunter, blackpowder shooter, photographer, gemology, trap shooter,duck hunter,elk, deer, etc.. | |||
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Ive got a Colt match target but my buddys SW 41 5 in. will out shoot it. | |||
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Gents! There are many accurate pistols out there. Some that I see used more often are Benelli MP 90 Morini CM 22 RF Feinwerkbau AW93 Walther GSP Expert Hämmerli SP20 Various Pardini´s Then there are quite a few who also uses S&W 617, High standard, Vostok, Baikal, FN or Unique. I am either using my colt officers model match or my Sig SP47/8 (Sig p210). Try as many different ones you can get your hands on and then find out if You like one more than the rest. Do You want new-in-box or used guns? There are differences between the different guns of course such as that the Feinwerkbau will leave the slide open after the last shot, while the Benelli will not. Some have fully adjustable triggers, others might require some sanding etc. Do You want the magazine in front of the trigger or in the handle? Sincerely Daniel | |||
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Many years ago I had a Vostock MU1 in 22 short. Nice gun in a fitted wooden case, orthopedic grips adjustable barrel weights etc. designed for Olympic rapid Fire shooting. I do not believe that they are imported into the USA or even if they are still made. I would love to have one again. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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if you really want one and if you can talk him into doing it again, jim kobe used to make a new upper end for the s&w 41. they were about the nth degree | |||
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