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Has anyone heard of any "no lead" .22 LR (or 17 HMR) loads being developed? Rimfire ammo versions of the Varmint Grenade or Sinterfire bullets? I'm sure they'll be pricey but I really hate to completely give up shooting rimfires when we have to start saving the condors here in July. Thanks, Kyler | ||
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Federal made a non lead .22 round under their Ballisticlean line, it was a 29gr. zinc alloy bullet. Got some. They discontinued it several years ago but the technology is there. CCI has a .22 WMR 'Green' loading out that is lead free. I am in need of a lower velocity rimfire to dispatch gray fox and bobcats in cage traps, CCI's Green 22 WMR load is around 2000 fps. at the muzzle, way too fast. But in experimenting I can pull the bullets with a collet type bullet puller, modify the powder charge and reseat the bullet. I want about 950 fps. Handgun silhouette shooters were handloading 22 WMR's with 50 gr centerfire bullets for better accuracy and they reliably knocked over the rams. CCI did state that their 22 WMR Green load was an initial offering, I don't see what the problem would be with making a non lead, compressed powder core for the .17 Mach2 or .17 HMR. Other than the cost increase from $1.50 per 50 .22LR to $12.00 per 50 .17HMR. Matter of fact a 15 gr. .17 Mach2 at 1200 fps would be a great dispatch round. Pinprick entrance, scramble the brain, dead as a doornail and no exit. Therefore no richochet, which can be an issue with lead projectiles when shooting a gray fox in the head at 8". | |||
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All that over a prehistoric chicken. Whats the world coming too...  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Skinner, if it were not for the fact that you said "cage trap" I would suggest .22 snake shot loads. There are some low velocity .22 rimfire loads out there from Aguila, but I have not had much chance to check the actual performance. (I have some boxes of their so-called subsonic sniper, hummingbird CB caps and other low power loads.) Growing up, I used plenty of .22 shotshells- CCI blue plastic capped and crimped federal and winchester I think they were, for game up to the size of porcupine and opossum for headshots at close range. (under 25 or so feet.) They were quite lethal and I never had to shoot anything twice so long as I was not out of the effective range. | |||
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Update: I emailed every .22 LR manufacture I could think of to see if they have any "green" ammo on the drawing board. The answer was "no" in all cases. In fact the only legal rimfire ammo in this area now is the one green CCI .22 Mag. load. (Too bad of all my rimfires I never got a Mag.). Boy, do I miss getting to pack one of my many .22 LR's for squirrels when I'm out and about. They sit in the safe now... Really sad. Make sure you fight and fight hard WHEN (not IF) the lead bullet ban heads your way. I get the feeling I'm one of the few in this area complying with the lead bullet ban but if the game wardens get serious about enforcing it things are going to get ugly. Kyler | |||
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Kyler: It is still legal to hunt small game with lead 22's, but not non-game. Here is a link to Fish & Game FAQ's on the subject. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/condor/docs/LeadInformation.pdf | |||
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One of the reasons to buy a 'lifetime' supply of .22LR now. It is cheap and available. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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I busted and balanced wheels for cars up to semis as well as done quite a bit of casting from bullets to vise jaws. I reckon I've got more lead exposure than the little woodland creatures from the tire work alone. Do they have "green" wheel weights now too? | |||
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yes, they are zinc alloy. | |||
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/re.../07/140718114541.htm Are you getting enough zinc in your diet ?? One visible sign of a deficiency is white spots on your fingernails ! | |||
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Our local rifle shop had some Winchester 22 LR with 29-grain tin bullets. Accuracy was not the finest, I still have most of the box left. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Remington used to manufacture a sintered iron .22 short load for use in shooting galleries about 50 years ago. There are bound to be a lot of those still around.
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Remington Rockets and Peters Thunderbolts, they came in a 28-round "Chiclets" box. I shot lots of them at rats in the town dump. At 25 yards or so, they were deadly. Now they are collectors items, too pricey to shoot. The whole process could probably be revived for .22 LR | |||
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Bought a couple of boxes of Winchester with 29 gr tin bullets. Probably 1/3 to 1/2 didn't fire. | |||
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