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We cannot ever forget what the Nazi evil accomplished --the work of a gleeful Satan. God bless the souls of all who were lost, and all who fought to liberate the camps. On a personal note, I pray for the soul of my father, 97th Infantry; they liberated Flossenbürg just days after the Nazis hanged Dietrich Bonhoeffer. When Dad realized this later in life, he was heartbroken. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | ||
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Those were dark days indeed, to put it mildly. I recall reading in a book a few years ago + it hit me hard at the time that with all the atrocities Hitler himself never killed anybody. His charisma made it possible for others to do it for him. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Anyone whose heart does not weep for this is not human. Sadly, we have not learnt our lessons yet! I wonder if we ever would, the way the world is going, and the unmitigated support deranged idiots are getting! | |||
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Never again! But with so many greedy idiots, evil men and women, without moral compass, nobody can guarantee it will not happen again. Those who make it happen are those doing nothing to stop it. Remember! It happened one step after another. | |||
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While I agree with all the above posts, wouldn't it be nice if some of the resident fascists posted their responses? As has been mentioned, this all started by demonizing one particular group of people, in this case, the Jews. But, it could just as easily be (and has indeed been) immigrants, Mexicans, Irish, Italians, Poles, Greeks, Blacks etc. etc. basically any minority with limited political power. Having said that, this is also the 34th anniversary of the Challenger disaster. Like the JFK assassination I am sure that everyone knows where they were when the heard the news. RIP to those brave souls. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Extreme Socialism is on the rise in the West. Could be a avenue for this to happen again. A bad day in Southern Africa could also lead to a complete ethnic cleanse there. China and India's huge populations could have the same result. World sucks, but it is the one we have. Ethnicity is a weird thing. I grew up my entire life thinking I was mostly German, English and Norwegian with a little something else thrown in. I found out as an adult that I was actually a German Jew, English, Norwegian, Armenian and Greek. | |||
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R.I.P. All the lost souls! Please let it Never happen again!  | |||
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It very well could happen again if people don't pay attention. As Plato said, "The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men." Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Just look at what is happening to the Republic. | |||
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Or in this particular case, extreme nationalism, i.e. fascism. Which is once again rearing its ugly head in many places including the USA. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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I didn't know there were any resident fascists on AR. But part of the anti-semitic fantasy is that the Jews control the world, the worldwide conspiracy continues in this view. Which would be the opposite of a minority with no political power as a basis for discriminition. My father was a participant in the liberation of a couple of concentration camps in WWII so I have no illusions about idiot negationists. And where I live, France, has seen a significant increase in anti-semitism and crimes against Jews these last 20 years. Did you know that since 2015/2016 synagogues and Jewish schools in France usually have an armed soldier posted at the entrance for their protection? Let this sink in, armed soldiers at the entrance of a place of worship and children's schools. In fact, it is a lot worse than you may think. Take a look at this: https://www.nationalgeographic...ews-fleeing-country/ _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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There was a TV show on the other evening that I watched about this. I learned a few more things I didn't know or wasn't sure of. I suspected there was cannibalism, but hadn't heard of it previously. One incident was with the Dutch Jew camp. The resorted to eating the dead so much in fact that the Germans quit feeding them rations totally, even tho that wasn't enough to keep them alive. They said they ate the meat from the leg thigh as that was the only place that had enough meat. Another was not everyone got a number tattoo. The Germans ran out of ink and let many of them go without them. An interesting story was an intern group bombed and destroyed one of the gas chambers. They got the ingredients from the POW workers that worked in the ammunition factories. They stole powder literally by one or two grains at a time. All I can say about the Holocaust those involved are going to pay dearly on judgement day. Bless those poor souls who were lost. | |||
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This sin't the political forum but this banner was the direct effect of the Democratic Socialist party's action of 30's and 40's Germany. What does the American politician Bernie Sanders call himself??? Be Well, Packy. | |||
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You can PM me if you wish to talk about it. Packy. | |||
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You need to read your history books more closely. The parties name is misleading to modern viewers so no realation can be implied. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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I remain stupified at the lack of desire to verify even the most simple of facts: NAZI: Abbreviation of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. (National Socialist German Workers Party), the full name of the Nazi party. The word Democratic does not even appear. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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So far we have learnt that anything with "socialist" "workers" "democratic" or similar is just another name for communism. And the belief that only socialists are capable of committing crimes against humanity is utterly stupid. Nationalists and fascists are just as guilty. Our lack of being honest and calling a spade a spade, no matter who is guilty of the crime, is getting us into this sort of thing. The world has gone to hell in the proverbial hand basket. And it is all caused by the stupid "isms" many people seem to be championing. | |||
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All humans are born with the same "original sin"; we are humans! None of us can rise above that! The founding fathers put the words of the Second Amendment as second because they understood that. A barking dog with no teeth is soon silenced! When no one is armed to step forward and stand up, no one will! WE CAN NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN!!!! | |||
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Glad someone can keep me straight. Be Well, Even you Cougarz. Packy | |||
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On a bit of a lighter note (bear with me) my mother in law passed this last August at the age of 102. She had been in the Army Air Corp. in WW2. One night when she was staying with us a few years back we were watching the History channel on a show about WW2. Heres the lighter note. That sweet little old lady said, " You know, that Hitler fellow sure started a lot of mischief." Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Let's be clear that what happened in Nazi Germany was NOT just "ethnic cleansing". There have been massacres of civilians of different ethnicity and religion for some time now. Some recent examples: The Armenian massacre. Over 1 million killed. The partition of India. Over 1 million killed. The Khymer rouge. The breakup of Yugoslavia and the resulting Bosnia/Croatia breakup. The events in Myanmar (Burma) relating to Muslims. etc. etc. The events in Nazi Germany were on a completely different industrialized scale, with full involvement and management by the national government. THAT is the difference. And, let's not kid ourselves, everyone knew! It started with your neighbor. They were OK, but kinda different, so it didn't really matter that much. Anyway, they were Jewish, Mexican, Muslim... fill in the blank! As to the wonderful second amendment, ever heard of the Waffen SS? I don't see any left wind militias parading around with weapons. Do you really think that the right wing militias are going to take up arms to protect the Jews, immigrants, Muslims etc.? Really??!! Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Trump has brought the entire Republican Party to the point of no return | |||
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I can't stomach most of the bullshit you put forth! I still wish you well in the cancer recovery Sir. | |||
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tsturm, I am sure you know what a good response that is! Just because someone has a different opinion than you does not mean you hate him or view him with contempt (or view him as "the enemy"). Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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And when you watch him today, you have to wonder how so many were driven by his personality ? Grizz When the horse has been eliminated, human life may be extended an average of five or more years. James R. Doolitle I think they've been misunderstood. Timothy Tredwell | |||
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Grizzly, simple, they fed into his message! He hankered back to the days of the German Empire prior to WW 1, when all the German speaking people were one nation: "one People, one Reich, one Leader" The "WW 1 "Allies" were trying to keep Germany from achieving it's former greatness. He was just trying to make Germany great again and the Allies and Jews were trying to keep it down. Who would not like that message? It's all their fault!! We have to pay them reparations. They won't let us build large warships. It's all their fault. This especially resonates when Germany is facing huge economic issues. The Treaty of Versailles said that Germany should repay $33 billion in reparations. They also lost some of their territories etc. etc. Not hard to research. Hitler's message was simple: "It's all their fault. They are just trying to keep us from being great again"! Peter Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Are you positive?? Yair Davidiy, Undefined History (1973) Updated Nov 14, 2019 · Author has 1.4k answers and 1.7m answer views The answer is almost certainly. The circumstantial evidence points towards it though it is not proven. His complicity in the murder of millions of innocent people is however beyond any doubt. In the big scheme of things it does not matter much whether he personally killed anybody directly or was merely responsible for others doing so. Nevertheless, the following notes are of interest. When he was about 16 the young Adolf Hitler obtained a pistol and a copious supply of ammunition. [This is one of the paradoxes of the life of Hitler. For someone who was allegedly poverty-stricken he keeps coming up with expensive possessions or undertakings, e.g. painting lessons , private tutoring of a high standard in elocution, conjuring, acquiring specialized literature, etc.]. Adolf would take his gun, go to the local graveyard, and exterminate the rats he found running around there. After beginning his political career in Munich he continued an affair with his niece, Geli Rabaul. She was revolted by his sexual perversions and wished to leave. His driver, Emile Maurice, told Hitler he wanted to marry her. Hitler threatened Maurice, waved his pistol in his face and threatened to shoot him. Later that day Hitler learned that not only Maurice but others had enjoyed her favors. He locked her in her room and the next day she was found shot dead by his gun. The police covered the murder up and described it as a suicide. At the time of his death before shooting himself Hitler killed his dog and then it seems certain that he administered poison to Eva Braun. This was possibly at her request. There were at least 5 women (including Renate Mueller) who met violent ends due to a physical association with Hitler. The violence was carried out by others acting on behalf of Adolf. Ernst Roehm had been a close friend and assistant of Hitler. He was a notorious homosexual and the Army considered him a threat. Hitler had to remove him. Roehm was shot at the personal behest of Hitler. Adolf evidently was physically present at the time. Several anecdotal accounts of the behavior of Hitler during the war relate that on occasion Hitler would get angry and threaten to have others shot or to shoot them himself. Erich Kempka, who served as the Chauffeur of Hitler (1934-1945), relates that towards the end of the war he attended a meeting of district commanders with Hitler. One of them raised the possibility of someone else being placed in charge instead of Hitler. This would facilitate reaching some kind of accommodation with the allies. Hitler took the person with this idea into the next room, shot him dead, and then came back in and went on with the meeting. There are quite a few stories about Hitler threatening to personally shoot personages he was irate with. Apart from that he personally oversaw the attempted extermination of the Jewish People receiving regular reports of its progress. Hitler enjoyed looking at films of those who had tried to kill him or were suspected of disloyalty at the time being slowly and painfully throttled to death by piano wire. https://www.quora.com/Did-Hitl...rsonally-kill-anyone | |||
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No, of course, I'm not positive + I'm aware of the affair with his niece. I was speaking more in broader terms as the holocaust per se. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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I remember an interview several years ago with Mel Brooks talking about Nazi everything. His answer was comedy. I won't spell it out but I agree. Laughing about the horror might save your sanity. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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With that said Norman have you noticed that Jews that are in politics (talking in our country) seem to have forgotten about the Holocaust and how it started. By that I mean almost all of them are anti-gun wanting to take all our firearms and many are now Socialist. I can't understand that. Norman Jewish people are great people in my opinion. Known many, worked for some, and some were friends. I like them and their history too. I wish the ones in our government and politics would wise up...and then there's Georget Soros...what do you think of him? | |||
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In Australia the Jews are also very anti gun and that has always puzzled me given the Holocaust. The Australian Labor party (equivalent of your Democrats) tend to be anti Jew and pro Arab/Muslim. I think this relates to voting blocks in different electorates (congressional districts). | |||
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That's interesting too! | |||
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