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07 June 2018, 21:10
Todd WilliamsBack up revolver
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Originally posted by tsturm:
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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
And yes TSTRUM, we did see your Pecker Puffin Party comment before you thought better and deleted it. Actually, it was funny. It should have just been aimed directly at the above mentioned troll.
It was,
Some of us Texans might want to come up and hunt the great state of Alaska again with some of you guys if we can get past the need for a belt fed 20MM hogleg back up pistol to address all the man eating bears hiding behind every tree ... well that and all the lightning hazards! It's a wonder any of you have survived at all.
07 June 2018, 21:21
tsturmquote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
Some of us Texans might want to come up and hunt the great state of Alaska again with some of you guys if we can get past the need for a belt fed 20MM hogleg back up pistol to address all the man eating bears hiding behind every tree ... well that and all the lightning hazards! It's a wonder any of you have survived at all.
Don't forget C.R.F.
07 June 2018, 23:26
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
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Originally posted by tsturm:
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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
And yes TSTRUM, we did see your Pecker Puffin Party comment before you thought better and deleted it. Actually, it was funny. It should have just been aimed directly at the above mentioned troll.
It was,
Some of us Texans might want to come up and hunt the great state of Alaska again with some of you guys if we can get past the need for a belt fed 20MM hogleg back up pistol to address all the man eating bears hiding behind every tree ... well that and all the lightning hazards! It's a wonder any of you have survived at all.
Todd, if you come up I'll lend you an RPG for bear protection. Tough to maneuver in a tent but the back flash makes a good second exit hole from the bear.
Cheers
Jim
08 June 2018, 02:03
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
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Originally posted by tsturm:
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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
And yes TSTRUM, we did see your Pecker Puffin Party comment before you thought better and deleted it. Actually, it was funny. It should have just been aimed directly at the above mentioned troll.
It was,
Some of us Texans might want to come up and hunt the great state of Alaska again with some of you guys if we can get past the need for a belt fed 20MM hogleg back up pistol to address all the man eating bears hiding behind every tree ... well that and all the lightning hazards! It's a wonder any of you have survived at all.
Todd, if you come up I'll lend you an RPG for bear protection. Tough to maneuver in a tent but the back flash makes a good second exit hole from the bear.
Cheers
Jim
Reminds me of a hunt up your way back in 1998. We had caribou hanging in the wind and had placed strobe lights on the meat to keep bears off of it at night. Strobes worked the first night. Next night we awoke to some noise around the meat poles and knew it was a bear. I'll never forget the bear's face when I shined the flashlight on him. Just like the Homer emoji but with a bou front quarter in his mouth!
A nice rock up side the head worked to make him drop the meat and keep them away for the rest of the night. I suspect something more might have been necessary if we stayed another night as they became more brave each evening. Maybe that bazooka would have been appropriate the 3rd night!
LOL
08 June 2018, 04:10
p dog shooterWe chased a bear out of camp one evening by throwing rocks.
My cousin was pitching the rocks.
As he was doing so the bear turn towards my cousin.
The bear took two steps towards my cousin and popped his teeth he was about 15 yards.
After about 3rd rock he connected a direct hit on his nose. The bear left and as far as we know didn't come back.
My cousin said he was very glad I was standing just of to the side with a firearm.
My cousin said how close would you have left him get. Before you shot him.
I said he would have taken 3 steps instead of two he would have been a dead bear.
Some times other methods work but it is always nice know that one can take care of the problem.
08 June 2018, 05:07
chuck375Don't throw rocks at bears ...
Regards,
Chuck
"There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit"
Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness"
08 June 2018, 06:10
p dog shooterquote:
Originally posted by chuck375:
Don't throw rocks at bears ...
If you ever watch a NFS video on what to do if a bear comes into camp rocks and banging pots and pans recommend.
You can watch them banging pans and picking up a rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrxWy_IYihQ09 June 2018, 02:42
Scott Kingquote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
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Secondly, that was not a justifiable DLP. I hope that a-hole was charged
To my knowledge it was never proven to what state or country it happened in let alone any charges were filed.
I glad that pro moose people would gladly let the animal attack them.
This fellows life was endanger no matter why.
Could it have been avoided maybe, maybe not.
Trying to read an animals mind is hard thing to do.
Apparently you have no experience with wildlife.
Not a single thing you say is either sensible or true.
Sticking that machine in reverse would have alleviated the problem. U turning that 100 hp 150" track rocket would have alleviated the problem.
Simply keeping his mouth shut and not antagonizing the moose would have alleviated the problem.
What a complete ignorant jackass.
09 June 2018, 03:11
p dog shooterquote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
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Secondly, that was not a justifiable DLP. I hope that a-hole was charged
To my knowledge it was never proven to what state or country it happened in let alone any charges were filed.
I glad that pro moose people would gladly let the animal attack them.
This fellows life was endanger no matter why.
Could it have been avoided maybe, maybe not.
Trying to read an animals mind is hard thing to do.
Apparently you have no experience with wildlife.
Not a single thing you say is either sensible or true.
Sticking that machine in reverse would have alleviated the problem. U turning that 100 hp 150" track rocket would have alleviated the problem.
Simply keeping his mouth shut and not antagonizing the moose would have alleviated the problem.
What a complete ignorant jackass.
What statement did I make that is untrue.
So his life wasn't endanger. So a moose striking at you with his hoofs isn't endangering
you.
You know where it happen. A lot of people would like to know please tell us.
You are saying it could have been avoided.
I said maybe so. Maybe not, you were not there I was not there.
So you can read what is going trough an animals mind.
Again what one of my statements is false
09 June 2018, 09:49
Cougarzquote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
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Originally posted by chuck375:
Don't throw rocks at bears ...
If you ever watch a NFS video on what to do if a bear comes into camp rocks and banging pots and pans recommend.
You can watch them banging pans and picking up a rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrxWy_IYihQ
I don't know.
A few weeks back just running at the black bear in camp and yelling worked like it always does. No need to bang up a bunch of pots & pans.
Roger
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*we band of 45-70ers*
09 June 2018, 18:49
jwp475quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
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Originally posted by Scott King:
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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
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Secondly, that was not a justifiable DLP. I hope that a-hole was charged
To my knowledge it was never proven to what state or country it happened in let alone any charges were filed.
I glad that pro moose people would gladly let the animal attack them.
This fellows life was endanger no matter why.
Could it have been avoided maybe, maybe not.
Trying to read an animals mind is hard thing to do.
Apparently you have no experience with wildlife.
Not a single thing you say is either sensible or true.
Sticking that machine in reverse would have alleviated the problem. U turning that 100 hp 150" track rocket would have alleviated the problem.
Simply keeping his mouth shut and not antagonizing the moose would have alleviated the problem.
What a complete ignorant jackass.
What statement did I make that is untrue.
So his life wasn't endanger. So a moose striking at you with his hoofs isn't endangering
you.
You know where it happen. A lot of people would like to know please tell us.
You are saying it could have been avoided.
I said maybe so. Maybe not, you were not there I was not there.
So you can read what is going trough an animals mind.
Again what one of my statements is false
No one knows the urgency of the snowmobiles to continue onward.
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Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
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15 June 2018, 11:20
ironbenderquote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
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Originally posted by ironbender:
For starters, that's called harassment of wildlife.
Secondly, that was not a justifiable DLP. I hope that a-hole was charged (legally).
Texans opining, with Texan lawyer-backup is never not funny.
Carry on.
Point 1 - I completely agree. The guy showed poor judgement, or worse, by closing the distance with the animal instead of giving it space to move on by its on will.
Point 2 - Because of Point 1, again, I completely agree.
Point 3 - Some of you Alaskans like painting us Texans with a very broad brush. How bout not lumping all of us into the same category with this mom's basement dwelling, hot pocket munching, mountain dew sipping, video gaming, Shootaway mimicking, Cheetos fingered, "All The Best" wishing douchenozzle! I'm sure that would go a long way toward removing the "Alaska Bush People" stereotype some might hold. And yes TSTRUM, we did see your Pecker Puffin Party comment before you thought better and deleted it. Actually, it was funny. It should have just been aimed directly at the above mentioned troll.
My apologies to the good Texans! The D-nozzle in question is clueless. Others not so much.
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If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
--Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
16 June 2018, 00:30
deadibobquote:
Originally posted by A.J. Hydell:
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Originally posted by twobobbwana:
* * * Much fantasy B.S. snipped.
Given an adequate gun my ability to shoot it, fast and accurately, would be the most important factor.
That ain't gonna happen trying to get a boat-anchor .44 Mag roscoe into action. You'll be a Grizzly's appetizer before the second shot.
Focus, dude ... This shit ain't rocket science, even in Aussie-land.
You should be banned from this site for using the term Roscoe
16 June 2018, 00:41
deadibobquote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
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My Glock jammed (not that I was overly worried) and continued to jam and never will I trust that again. Worked fine the next day once I had cleaned and oiled it.
Duh the most common reason for most fire arms to fail is the lack of maintenance.
Why would you blame the firearm when you didn't do your part.
Those were the good old days. Most Glock or other semi auto jams now, are due to limp-wristed fairy-god-mothers not having the hand strength to hold the gun properly
16 June 2018, 00:53
p dog shooterquote:
Originally posted by deadibob:
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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
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My Glock jammed (not that I was overly worried) and continued to jam and never will I trust that again. Worked fine the next day once I had cleaned and oiled it.
Duh the most common reason for most fire arms to fail is the lack of maintenance.
Why would you blame the firearm when you didn't do your part.
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Those were the good old days. Most Glock or other semi auto jams now, are due to limp-wristed fairy-god-mothers not having the hand strength to hold the gun properly
That can be debatable I seen both but they are the top two .
One or the other might be number one on any given range day
You and your attorney buddies are dimwitted nutjobs who need a good slap upside the head. Same with the creep that killed that moose. That guy provoked that moose. Anyone with half a brain knows that when facing a moose like that the appropriate response is to back away/drive or run from the moose if on foot. Been there done that, once you retreat the moose sees the threat as gone. He kept advancing and provoking it. He is the one that forced the charge.
This guy was nothing more than a Glock happy, tacticool nitwit (like a few others around here) with a gopro and an attitude. You guys that think this was a justified DLP are mush heads.
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Originally posted by A.J. Hydell:
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Originally posted by Scott King:
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Originally posted by A.J. Hydell:
Once dat Moose crossed da line, ...
... it was O.K. Corral time:
Moose vs. Snowmobiler w/ 10mm Glock:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...google&layout=tablet
It's obvious the rider provoked that charge and should be held accountable.
Huh?
Dude, the Moose charged him twice on a clear snowmobile trail where the rider had a right to be. It was only when his spooky 'mouth noises' failed to scare the Moose away that the rider resorted to shooting him on the third charge.
I showed this YouTube clip to
three attorneys, all of whom are hunters and competitive shooters, and two of them have been to AK, and the other to Africa.
Guess what?
All three said this guy's moose shooting was fully DLP-justified.
So I asked, hypothetically, what if some dipstick AK game-warden decided to charged this snowmobile guy with a DLP violation based on this video?
Response was, essentially: "said officer would get his keister shredded in court. Not a leg to stand on."
Ouchy Word to the wise.
16 June 2018, 08:37
458WinYou might consider looking for an attorney with a little more knowledge of Alaskan laws as They are pretty simple to understand about DLP killings. It is not a stand your ground type of law.
" You make kill game animals in defense of your life or property if you did not provoke an attack ---- and if you have done everything else you can to protect your life and property"
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
Phil Shoemaker
Alaska Master guide
FAA Master pilot
NRA Benefactor
www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com 04 August 2018, 09:47
chuck375Even when hunting grizzly was still legal in Montana in the early 70s, any DLP killing of a grizzly was a horrible and expensive experience to go through. There better be powder burns on the bear and a few hundred stitches on you if you didn't want 5 figure fines and loss of hunting privileges forever.
While hunting black bear with my two sons in New Mexico one of the guide's father called a bull elk into camp with his hands. He said he used to use a cow call but changed after a bull pinned him against his truck. He said he came out all right, but needed some counseling ... Same situation with a grizzly might be a tad worse lol.
Regards,
Chuck
"There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit"
Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness"
04 August 2018, 14:51
Sevastopolquote:
Originally posted by chuck375:
Even when hunting grizzly was still legal in Montana in the early 70s, any DLP killing of a grizzly was a horrible and expensive experience to go through. There better be powder burns on the bear and a few hundred stitches on you if you didn't want 5 figure fines and loss of hunting privileges forever.
While hunting black bear with my two sons in New Mexico one of the guide's father called a bull elk into camp with his hands. He said he used to use a cow call but changed after a bull pinned him against his truck. He said he came out all right, but needed some counseling ... Same situation with a grizzly might be a tad worse lol.
That's pretty funny.
04 August 2018, 16:37
p dog shooterquote:
Originally posted by chuck375:
Even when hunting grizzly was still legal in Montana in the early 70s, any DLP killing of a grizzly was a horrible and expensive experience to go through. There better be powder burns on the bear and a few hundred stitches on you if you didn't want 5 figure fines and loss of hunting privileges forever.
All brought about the foolish notion that it is always the humans fault
While hunting black bear with my two sons in New Mexico one of the guide's father called a bull elk into camp with his hands. He said he used to use a cow call but changed after a bull pinned him against his truck. He said he came out all right, but needed some counseling ... Same situation with a grizzly might be a tad worse lol.
Life can be hard on some one that couldn't open a truck Door.