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The fable and myth of Old Groaner

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12 August 2022, 18:44
p dog shooter
The fable and myth of Old Groaner
The story of Old Groaner is well known but the truth of the story isn't. Here is a 4 part series that uncovers it.


https://www.ammoland.com/2022/...-and-pistol-defense/


https://www.ammoland.com/2022/...i-the-1953-re-write/

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/...the-story-over-time/

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/...s-and-grows-part-iv/
24 August 2022, 01:52
anukpuk
Is somebody calling BS on hand logger because this could never happen are we need bear spray


If your gonna be dumb, you gotta be tuff.
24 August 2022, 02:14
anukpuk
This phone often likes to correct my texts but I’m just wondering why this would be considered a fable or a myth by someone far removed


If your gonna be dumb, you gotta be tuff.
24 August 2022, 15:35
p dog shooter
Did you read all four of the articles.

How the story was changed over time.

The myth or just plain lie. That old groaner being shot with a handgun several times. As been used by many to try and prove handguns are not suitable for defense against bears.

Why the 1953 article by Handlogger was changed from the 1936 article and who changed it. Well not beknown.

If you take the time and read Mr. Weingarten's other articles on bears and handguns uses. You Will find the he is anything but pro bear spray.
24 August 2022, 19:03
tsturm
quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Did you read all four of the articles.

How the story was changed over time.

The myth or just plain lie. That old groaner being shot with a handgun several times. As been used by many to try and prove handguns are not suitable for defense against bears.
Why the 1953 article by Handlogger was changed from the 1936 article and who changed it. Well not beknown.

If you take the time and read Mr. Weingarten's other articles on bears and handguns uses. You Will find the he is anything but pro bear spray.


And Who might give a FUCK??


24 August 2022, 22:50
anukpuk
If you talk to Kevin at yes bay lodge he would know a lot more about this


If your gonna be dumb, you gotta be tuff.
24 August 2022, 23:44
p dog shooter
quote:
And Who might give a FUCK??


People who like the truth.
25 August 2022, 00:36
anukpuk
Even though rewrites may change a little bit the story sounds pretty much true to me the fish are all gone by September same with the berries and the bears are a lot more dangerous and people don’t tolerate problem bears especially in the 1930s saw a bear suffering from bullet wounds that hunts people and groans doesn’t sound too far-fetched


If your gonna be dumb, you gotta be tuff.
25 August 2022, 04:51
anukpuk
Using the old groaner story to prove or disprove anything about handguns is as stupid as trying to disprove the moon landing


If your gonna be dumb, you gotta be tuff.
25 August 2022, 06:55
p dog shooter
quote:
Originally posted by anukpuk:
Even though rewrites may change a little bit the story sounds pretty much true to me the fish are all gone by September same with the berries and the bears are a lot more dangerous and people don’t tolerate problem bears especially in the 1930s saw a bear suffering from bullet wounds that hunts people and groans doesn’t sound too far-fetched



Well the rewrite changes a lot from the ordinal story. Adding many things.

If one wants to believe the fiction that was added so be it.