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HEY I DID IT .....

Looks like something off to that deer's left really surprised it!

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Looks like something off to that deer's left really surprised it!

That's funny right there now I don't care who you are.

Gumboot, you can't post a pic without details. What's the story on that deer?

Congrats on getting it all figured out.

.............This was the 3rd deer I had shot that day ....The first was a 1st year little doe that fell off a cliff right behind us as we were sitting waiting for the sun to warm up things a little ...She broke her front leg and back and I popped her in the head with my 480 .....the 2nd was a nice old doe that lost her head and is in my Avatar ...I don,t think anyone wants to see that but I put it there to prove the point that large rifles can and are shot accurately , and so relatively precise shots can easily be made with the 416 Rem Mag , ect ..... And then this spike ....We were on our way home in a round and about way ...cruising the beaches ,[ the 1st timber line ] ...And saw some deer on the beach ....We found a way thru the rocks and I got off the bow and my hunting companions stood off the beach in the skiff...We used to shoot them from the boat but ADF&G takes a dim view of that now and will take your boat so its best to get to the beach and put the sneak on them ..........Any way ,, I saw this doe kickin the snot out of a yearling so I knew there was a buck in the area close by ...The wind was shifty and so when this spike walked out from under a blowdown about a hundred yards away,,,, walking towards me ,,I figured I better wack him .....So I did ,,,the only problem was he kind of hopped over a small beach log as the shot went off ...My aim point had been his left eye ,,,as he was quartering slightly towards my right ,,,but instead the bullet went beside his head and hit him on top of the hips ...He went down but then got up on his front legs and pulled himself toward the bay .....He was thrashing around alot with his head and so I missed a few times then the shot came right and he didn,t have a 1st vertebra anymore ....You can see the circular cut in the hair at the bottom of his ear ....The 350 gr TSX @ approx 2500 fps impact vel made a smaller hole than the 300 gr X @2700 fps did .I only lost around 3 lbs of meat ......

Do you live in Cordova?

gumboot,
great job congrats,thanks for shareing. that boat ride pix reminded me of the last fishing trip for walleyes in canada a few years back.
cold ain''t even on the same page. is it true the brown bears come in when they here the rifle shot? or do they only do that when the salmon run is very poor and the wild berry crop is hurt by frost in the spring time and makes for no berrys in the fall.regards

Yes they do come to a shot ....but they will also follow you around .....I live on Chichagof Is. ..So my primary brown bear education,,has to do with bears in the Southeast Jungles .... .. ......Brown bears are very intelligent , but unlike black bears they can rely on their strength and abilities more ....... They also tend to act like they know they are the boss ...Until they get great big , then they seem to get so they really want to avoid people as they usually have eaten siblings and other bear carcasses that hunters have killed .....They figure out what we are all about ,,..........One thing a bear never forgets is where and how it got a meal ...And very old bears will crowd people to get what ever they can.....They are the most dangerous ones . .... .Sows teach cubs to take deer from people and or to wait around for people to leave so they get the gut pile...Eagles and Ravens can make a deer gut pile disappear in like 15 minutes or less ,,,so the bears are pretty aggressive to get to the kill site before its all gone and before another bear gets on it........Seldom is it the 10 ft. bears who fool around with deer kills but it must be remembered ,,most brown bears arn,t 10 ft bears.. ..Some of the biggest bears never come down to the bays , or mouths of criks .......I,ve talked to several ADF&G and USFS biologists who have confirmed this ....They will find some mountains and stay up high eating grass ,berries , Mt.Goat and deer .....However big sows will fish as much as they can and tend to be pretty tough to be around ,,if there is a good bear population in the area,, from protecting their cubs from other bears ....Both boars and sows....The denser the bear population the more encounters with them you will have ...... .....Say you go goat hunting on Bear Mountain in Sitka ......There will be plenty of bears in your vicinity ..you will use the same trail to get to and from the top of the mountain and they will try to beat the birds to the gut pile at the least ......Remember bears and raptors live to be 25 yrs old and more ,,, they don,t do so by forgetting how to get groceries..... ..........just like a dog can smell you and remember you,, so can bears ......Especially if you yield your kill to them ......Thats a real life example of training bears to be aggressive toward people in genral and hunters in particular ...........Leave your fish on the bank and back away from a bear ,,,, you just taught that bear to be aggressive to fishermen .. ........The old timers ,,,men that I respect ,,,had great ways of dealing with bears .....I learned alot from them .........I hunt deer with a 416 ........

thanks gumboot sage advice 4 sure.
regards jjmp

Gumboot458/ thanks for sharing your knowledge about brownies. Always good to learn something new/ Chaz

hey gumboot nice pics, could you please tell me more about that their rife

....................Its a CZ550 Safari action w/McGowan barrel I had McGowan duplicate the factory barrel contour...It,s got an MPI fiberglass stock......It is the high point of my rifle builds so far ...Easy shootin ,,easy 400 yard reach...... So far all the power I need up close ......The build took a few years total ....I had it finished this summer and fall .....It only had the scope on it when I shot the deer with it .................. This is what it looks like now , beside my 458 Lott ......I had the rings CeraKoted also ......

just curious how many does in hold

Those are some nice rifles.

Are you sure you use enough gun?

....They both hold and feed 6 from the magazine plus 1 in the pipe .......If I were to do a PAC elephant hunt I would use the 458 Lott.......7, 450 gr. hammers at my immediate disposal and easy reloading with PLENTY of room to shove new cartridges in the mag ...........But I wouldn,t feel too chicken with the 416 .........As much as I like the set trigger in the CZ,s if I could easily install a military 98 Mauser trigger in them I probably would ....... I don,t like little parts that can freeze up .....But they both have good triggers .............I like Jeffe,s AR line but the H&H mag full length cartridges have so much going for them ,, It,s hard to change ..........................................JimZ ,,next year I,ll be starting on my 4th decade of hunting deer on the coast of Alaska............The practicle limit on calibers to hunt deer with are what you can hit well with .....................Remember HEAD SHOTS ON DEER BODY SHOTS ON BEAR ..USING ENOUGH RIFLE TO DRT BOTH..........

.........Really Nice weather you had ,,,,,,Looks like it was fun ...........

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Originally posted by Moose-Hunter:
Those are some nice rifles.

.............Thank you Moose Hunter .......I was talking to my gunsmith tonight and he thinks the integral brake is the best idea .for the Lott ..I want to loose an inch from the barrel..I really like the one he did on my 9.3 and am surprised how well it works ..........I will go with the same stock But either Skunk cabbage green or Sitka spruce green ...for the whole rifle .....Will have a band sling eye put on also .......The 416 will be the prefered [ hunting ] rifle but the Lott will be favored for bears alone ......