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All I got to say is "damn...."


A lesson in irony

The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever, to 46 million people.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us... "Please Do Not Feed the Animals." Their stated reason for the policy is because "The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."

Thus ends today's lesson in irony.
 
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I think it's neat, but as a bear defence weapon I think it lacks a lot.

First it's a single shot. So that would suck. Compared to an 870 with 8 rounds of slugs in the pipe it would be within a pound. Might as well have 8 12 gauge slugs.

Second it's going to be fairly heavy. Again compare to th 870.

Think it's cool, but I would choose anything that fired 2 shots over something that fired 1. And 5, 10, or 30 would be better.

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I consider the ideal Big Bear defence weapon is having Mr. Phil Shoemaker standing over your shoulder w/ his reliable 458 Mauser.

Anything else may work but is less than ideal.

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There's much to be said for making one shot count. Having said that, I'm not a big fan of his work. Many like it but count me out.


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I think he should stick to handguns.

What caliber is it?


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Per his website...Some of the calibers available are 375 H&H, 375 Rem. Ultra Mag, 378 Weatherby, 375 H&H Ackley Improved, 405 Winchester, 416 Remington Mag, 416 GNR, 416 Rigby, 450 GNR, 450 KNR, 458 Win. Magnum, 458 Lott, 460 Weatherby, 475 GNR, 476 GNR, 470 Nitro, 470 Capstick, 500 Nitro, 50 Alaskan, 505 Gibbs, 510 Wells, 510 Express, or 500 Jeffery.


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Just lacking one item the way I see it! shocker That one item would be a second barrel to make it a double rifle!!! Big Grin
 
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If is what had I would use it to good effect. I would take a repeater over the BEAST.
 
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I consider the ideal Big Bear defence weapon is having Mr. Phil Shoemaker standing over your shoulder w/ his reliable 458 Mauser.

Anything else may work but is less than ideal.

GVA


Or just being confident in your own shooting and abilities without pissing your pants would be even better than relying on someone else.
 
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WJ ;;What Caliber.....I would prefer it to a repeater of les than 338 cal...and if it were a 416 or larger wouldn,t feel inadaquetly armed if hunting or stopping a 1 bear charge....Still a model 77Mk II is a simpler action with bigger internal parts that tend to always work ,.,.I would opt for a 375 Ruger Alaskan ...


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I would not use that as a bear defense gun, I would prefer to use something with a little more ammo capacity.


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Posts: 845 | Location: S.C. Alaska | Registered: 27 October 2006Reply With Quote
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I've never hunted bear so can't speak from personal experience. However if I were charged by a bear I would prefer something with more ammo capacity or a double rifle.


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I have a Ruger #1 chambered in 458 win mag and I wouldn't hesitate to carry it in the bush however the advantage of this customized piece is largely imaginary.
I've found that the extra short barrels take away more than they give.Their advantage in brush is exagerated.
 
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looks pretty handy to me, chances of being attacked are pretty slim even in areas withh high densitys unless you are calling deer or working up a carcass. only big disadvantage is always being chambered up or having to look for the ammo


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