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Do you feel under gunned? What have your results been? What bullet? what load? Have you taken 1 animal with your 270? 2? 3? 4? 5+? Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | ||
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My buddies step mom uses a 270 for moose. She has always used the 150gr remington core-lokt SP. I have only seen her shoot two moose a bang flop on a spike/fork. About 40 yard shot at unsuspecting moose right behind the shoulder. It was actually the quickest I have ever saw a moose drop. The other one was on a smaller 38" bull, shot it once in the shoulder, once a little far back and the last in the ribs from about 100-150 yards. It came out of some brush still moving pretty well about 180 yards out and my buddy's dad leveled it with a 250gr partition out of his 340 weatherby. I know it will definately work, and just like anything else its more about the mind set of the animal in question than anything else but you won't be busting a moose down with the 270, behind the shoulder lung shot are going to be very effective. I would probably go with a premium bullet too, 140-150gr Accubond/partition/TSX, pick you poison. The 150gr core-lokt didn't penetrate the shoudler on her 38" bull but the rib shot would have done the job. The backup shot from the 340 was a tx heart shot went in rear ham came out in the hump/base of neck area. Ruined a fair amount of meat in the ham too | |||
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Mike use to really love to hunt with the .270-owned 5 at one particular time. Would buy them clean them up a bit and sell them to the parents of youngsters where I live. I have made more one shot kills using the .270 than other caliber I have owned and/or shot. I have used either Swifts or Trophy Bonds in the end. Then I began a new adventure into reloading. Cheaper opportunities began then with the use that includes those two and the Partitions and Barnes. Mike I cannot tell you exactly how many moose I have killed with the .270 but figure 8-10 easy, lots of caribou and a few bears. When I began to venture further into the Brooks the size of the bears increased dramatically and the .270 even smaller. Had PacNor rebarrel that Winchester .270 into a .338-06 and some NECG irons for "logical" reasons. Don't own another .270 now. hope that helps. | |||
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Grizz, Thanks very much for the reply...I appreciate the info. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I have taken two moose with a 270 Win. The first was in the Yukon Territory. It was a 60" bull and I shot it at 275 yards. with 150 Partions. Took three but he never moved after the first shot hit through the lungs and unstead of waiting for him to realize he was dead I fired tw o additional uneeded shots. The second moose was a Shiras in Idaho also a large old bull one shot with the same load through the shoulder and out the other side put him down immediately. 465H&H | |||
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with a 270 i would feel the same as naked in a snow storm. | |||
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The .270 is fine for lung/hear shots on moose, but it's much better for caribou than moose. Quite often moose don't offer an ideal lung shot, and for that reason prefer a more powerful gun. It's very difficult to pass a shot after spending days looking for a moose to kill, and I would be a little apprehensive to take a quartering shot on moose with the .270, or a shoulder-breaking shot as well. I have killed a few moose with lung/heartt shots, but I have also done the same with shoulder and quartering shots, all with a .338WM. Would I use a .270? Yes, but only while keeping its limits (and mine) in mind. Another problem is that moose country is also bear country, and bears too have tough and muscular shoulders. | |||
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I couldn't agree with Ray more. If a person can handle more gun than the 270 that is what they should use for moose. If you've paid big bucks to hunt a trophy bull and the only shot you have is going away you have no shot with a 270 were with a heavier caliber and a good bullet you have a dead moose. Of course there is always the bear issue too. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I would use a .270 but prefer more bullet weight and thus a larger caliber like the .300, .338 or .375 with good softs. _______________________________ | |||
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I used a 270 for many years. I never lost a moose and that old rifle had at least a dozen moose drop. I gave that rifle to my son and picked up a 30-06 that I use today and with that I have never lost a moose or had one walk over 30 yards after shooting it....including the one I bagged earlier this week. JIM | |||
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skyeskye, I have shot them thru both shoulders and down they go, so for those that think the .270 is lacking got news for them. Bigger does not necessarily mean better-it is a fine caliber. | |||
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