Would the 325gr LeverRevolution round in 45-70 be suitable for a brown bear hunt? Thanks

Probly not I think it was designed for Cape Buffalo
Dr B

That's a very light bullet in the 45-70. When I was carrying one, I preferred 500 grains or thereabouts.

NO!

I just pulled out a Winchester Ammunition Handbook from 1950 with recommendations for grizzly and kodiak bears: 30-40 Krag 220gr Sil Tip,30-06 180 & 220gr Sil Tip, 348 250gr Sil Tip,300 H&H 220gr Sil Tip & 375 H&H 270 & 300gr Sil Tip .The Hornaday LR with a 325gr bullet should be adequate for bears out to 200 yards or less; 2050fps and 3032 ft lbs at the muzzle with a TKO of 43. Bears haven't changed the old rifles were up to the job of taking them down & still are in the hands of the person who is really proficient and knows how to shoot, sorry to say there aren't many who really are that capable in todays world who will spend hours upon hours practising and learning about their weapons .Too many go buy one,ask a know nothing know it all clerk who never has hunted what gun & ammo to buy,go to the range one time and are ready to conquer the wilderness and take their game.I had an idiot drive into an area where I was watching a deer in CO, before I could take a shot he fired his 300wm he'd sighted in with 180gr bullets but changed to 190grs for his hunt,he told me to stand and spot the deer for him,he missed, wasn't with 100 yards of it so I got in my Landcruiser and left the area.

For one thing, you don't shoot bears at 200 yards. The second thing is that you are looking at data for 375's and under. That's like saying you could use a 180 grain bullet in the 375.

From everything I have heard it is a very soft bullet and I definately would not reccomend it for moose or brown bear. Stick with a good quality premium bullet like the kodiak bonded, Northforks, or hard cast load. I really like the 405gr kodiak bonded.

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From everything I have heard it is a very soft bullet and I definately would not reccomend it for moose or brown bear. Stick with a good quality premium bullet like the kodiak bonded, Northforks, or hard cast load. I really like the 405gr kodiak bonded

Yah cause that 2050 fps is really going to tear up those bullets

any bullet designed to open up on deer at 200+ yards at 45/70 velosities isn't going to hold up at 50, it will come apart. With the exception of the nosler 300gr bullet or possibly the Barnes 300gr X I don't consider any of the lighter weight 45/70 bullets to be sturdy enough for moose/bbears.

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Originally posted by Thebear_78:
any bullet designed to open up on deer at 200+ yards at 45/70 velosities isn't going to hold up at 50, it will come apart. With the exception of the nosler 300gr bullet or possibly the Barnes 300gr X I don't consider any of the lighter weight 45/70 bullets to be sturdy enough for moose/bbears.

I wonder if anyone has tried them on feral pigs?

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any bullet designed to open up on deer at 200+ yards at 45/70 velosities isn't going to hold up at 50, it will come apart. With the exception of the nosler 300gr bullet or possibly the Barnes 300gr X I don't consider any of the lighter weight 45/70 bullets to be sturdy enough for moose/bbears.

Maybe someone would be brave enough to try these out on a rabbit. Not the Alaskan rabbits (they are too thick skinned for proper penetration) but maybe just a little BC/Yukon Variety, I think as long as the little guys didn't charge you would be ok.

For good ammo for your 45-70 that will take on that bear and do it well, go to:

http://www.garrettcartridges.com/products.asp

Well I took the .450 Marlin out today and shot it into some pieces of pine that I cut up. The 325 grain evolution ammo did way better than I expected. I shot from about 15 yards away to make it as brutal as possible. It penetrated 16.5 inches lengthwise through the pine (my .300 win mag with 180 grain partitions is usually pretty close to that). The bullet weighed 271.7 grains after it all, pretty good at sticking together. This load and bullet is going to smash a black bear and a moose no problem this year.

Dr.B
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