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If you buy a trapping license and a hunting license can you use a rifle to get your trapping quotas? As in can I predator call more wolf that are allowed on my hunting license using my trapping license as the quota?

Also can I bring non-paying non resident family/friends with me on the trapline? Do they need a trapping license?

If they buy a trapping license do they have to buy tags for wolf and wolverine?

I became an Alaska resident in 2000 and after not really enjoying the outfit I was working for I decided to go back in the military. So according to the Brown Shirts I ask, I am an Alaska resident until I retire from the military and move back or set up residency in another state.

I have spent most of the 14 years since I came back in the military overseas.

But I have continued to support the state by buying a resident hunting license every year since 2001.
 
Posts: 955 | Location: Until I am back North of 60. | Registered: 07 October 2011Reply With Quote
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Moa, my understanding is if you are a holder of a trapping license with your hunting license you can take your fur either way, but the trapping license allows you to harvest more under the trapping regs.

If someone whom is un licensed is with you they should not participate in any capacity other than observe. There is some grey area here the brown shirts can use to exploit your check books. I would really be couscous as their new tactic is write a ticket as a misdemeanor, then just before court reduce it to a citation knowing full well most will just pay the fine as it is cheaper than taking it to court.

There are some areas in the state tags are not required for nonresidents hunting wolves, but they still need a hunting license.
 
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While not a brown shirt I try to stay abreast of all game laws and will try to answer your questions.

Hunting and trapping laws are different, with different quotas, and you can use a rifle as a legal means for trapping. So yes, with both licenses you can take both limits.

You can take a non-paying non-resident with you whether or not you are hunting or trapping but they are not legal to take game or fur-bearors without their own license. And if they do the penalties are stiff and, depending on the situation, you could also be implicated.

If they also have a trapping license they can take wolves or wolverine without a big game tag as they are "trapping" rather than "hunting"


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Something else to remember. In rural areas people guard their traplines with their life, they buy & sell lines, and you always see certain people in every community attempt to corner all the traplines; and there are almost trapline wars, ha ha. Everybody trying to live off the land in some hungry country.

Before you ever start even thinking about trapping, always find out who already owns or thinks he does the trapline in that area. It will save you all kinds of grief & arguments. If you really like trapping, buy yourself a line that already exists. Just make sure that everybody in the area agrees that you now own the line.

I know a couple people who spend entire winter at it, get maybe 60-70 marten a dozen wolves, and a couple wolverine. Nobody gets 200 marten like they did years back, at least where I call home.

If ya want to get some wolves, get a snowmachine and find some caribou 30 miles out Nabessna road. Ride in several trails 20 miles until you find caribou everywhere, set up and you'll see wolves. There's a great place to stay out there: Sportsmans Paradise, You won't find a better Alaskan than Doug Fredricks, and his cabins/lodge is very reasonable and he has a bar & eats; great way to spend weekends. He has trails and he traps wolves himself. Ride back Tanada & copper lake, check out wind on the water, read book first. Ride out Jacksina & Copper glacier. Ride out trail that goes towards tetlin. You'll see wolves & kills.
 
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I rekon we will trap our own land, if it works great! If I end up in up in Fairbanks or the Mat-Su I don't doing more than predator hunting.

I'd be happy with 4 or 5 martin a year, a few wolves, and one or two lynx and wolverine. Brother in law is a pretty good taxidermist but doesn't hunt. I usually just trade him an animal for a mount.
 
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i was once told by a brown shirt that if someone goes on my trapline and does ANYTHING, like hand me bait, start my snowmachine, move an animal, hand me wire..blah blah. they are trapping and must have a license.

Also if you have a trapping license tags are not required for wolf or wolverine and you can shoot them (unless otherwise stated in the trapping regs) for your trapping bag limit.

Also it is illegal to snare a hare under a trapping license....make sure you have a hunting license for hares. they are not listed in the trapping regulations. weird i know.


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Posts: 1406 | Location: Big lake alaska | Registered: 11 April 2008Reply With Quote
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MOA, if you like trapping, buy an old developed line from ex trapper. Unless you plan on buying hundreds of sq miles, you ain't going to catch much on your own land. You have to cover many miles on snowmachine just to set a say 25 traps. Also, you can't trap in urban areas without problems, you catch somebody's dog; they'll be ready to shoot you in the back and leave the ravens pick your eyes out, no joke; remember reality of Ak. I think the biggest detriment to people trapping and setting snares is the price of fuel.

Seriously, trap lines can be bought for 200-500-1000 dollars.
 
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Originally posted by MOA TACTICAL:

I became an Alaska resident in 2000 and after not really enjoying the outfit I was working for I decided to go back in the military. So according to the Brown Shirts I ask, I am an Alaska resident until I retire from the military and move back or set up residency in another state.

Stay safe and keep all the "I's" dotted and the "T's" crossed and hope you make it back soon.

I have spent most of the 14 years since I came back in the military overseas.

But I have continued to support the state by buying a resident hunting license every year since 2001.


Alaska is one tuff cookie when it comes to residency. Maintaining residency in Alaska is a lot more involved than just buying hunting and fishing license's once a year. Alaska requires you to keep your Alaska drivers license, your vehicles must remain registered in Alaska, must be registered to vote in Alaska, can not purchase resident hunting/fishing license in any other state nor can you apply for resident tuition rates in other states. Am sure there are other requirements but these pop into my mind first.

Stay safe and keep all the paperwork in order and enjoy the trapping upon your returnSmiler


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Snowwolfe,

I have done all over that stuff. They actually don't make you renew your drivers license, when you are on active duty in auto-renews until you retire, or get out.

Mostly my career has been overseas, so I haven't really been tempted to try and purchase resident tags locally anywhere else.
 
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If you are trapping, why in the world would you put bullet holes in your pelts?
 
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If you are trapping, why in the world would you put bullet holes in your pelts?


Because at times that's the only way of getting them,ai, wolves,wolverine,coyote,etc


I tend to use more than enough gun
 
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MOA You said that you became an Alaska resident
in 2000 and then after not really enjoying the outfitt you were working for decided to go back in the military and spent 14 years so with it being 2012 what happend to the other 2 years?
 
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