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I already have good 375 H&H loads worked up for the 250g Swift A-Frame (2800 fps), and the 350g Woodleigh PP (2450 fps), but am open to using any premium bonded bullet (Swift A-Frame, Nosler Partition, Woodleigh, etc) (I'm not a TSX fan in the smaller calibers) ... Right now I'm thinking of working up a load for either the 300g Swift A-Frame or going with my 350g Woodleigh load ... Recommendations? Thanks! Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | ||
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There is nothing wrong with either the 250 Swifts or 350 Woodleighs and if you don't like the TSX ( which is my choice) then go with either the 300 gr Swift or Partition. They will all work. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Thanks Phil, I like the 570g TSX in my 500 Jeffery because they're made for the 500 NE and expand so well. I'm just more of a traditionalist with bonded core or partition bullets. On relatively soft skinned game, I want something I postively know will expand and yet still hold together. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I've used the 300g TSX in my .375 some and think its just fantastic. Even if the TSX didn't expand and I've never had it happen, figure that on a bear you're going to have full penetration with a .375 projectile, bones broken as it goes. Bowhunters wish they could be so lucky. I've been sporadically carrying a few Barnes Solids around with me locally hoping for the opportunity to dump them thru something big just to see what happens. I'm not inclined to think I'll be dissapointed with their performance. | |||
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Midway had the 350g Woodleigh PPs on clearance, so I bought 6 boxes. If they shoot well in my rifle, which I expect them to, they'll be my brown bear load at around 2450 fps or so. They should do the job. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I expect they will do as I'm going to be using the 350 Woodleigh loads in .375 H&H with Norma PH ammo this year myself. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Thanks Phil, hopefully I'll be able to post some pictures of the bullet and the bear by October ...  Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I killed my first brown bear with 270 gr "X" bullets in my 375 9 years ago.This past May I got #2 with 370 gr North Forks in my 416. Both bullets performed perfectly, retaining over 95% of their weights. Niether bear moved from the spot of the first shot. I don't like to take bullets home-so I always double and triple tap DG.Your choices sound fine to me. Have a great hunt! | |||
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always used 300 gr partitions | |||
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I don't know if the new Trophy Bonded bullets are different than the old ones, but the old ones worked very well for me. In my experience the 300 grain 375 H&H retained 95%+ of its weight and mushroomed perfectly. How can you beat that? | |||
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Chuck375, My standard load for the .375 H&H is a 300 gr TSX at 2600 fps. Only one I've ever recovered from game was a perfect mushroom. Not sure why you don't like them in the .375 calibers? Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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JUst rumors I guess. I've heard of cases when they just didn't open up first hand from other hunters, but that was 5 years ago. Maybe they were "freak instances" or maybe that problem has been solved. On soft skinned game like bears (even browns), deer, elk, etc. I want something I know will open up. I know the 350g Woodleighs will open up to 2 1/2 times diameter and still penetrate really well. If I was hunting cape buffalo with a 375 H&H I'd probably go with the 350g North Forks. More likely I'll go with a 570g TSX out of my 500 Jeffery. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Chuck - You won't find anyone who likes the TSX bullets less than I do but they do work fine on brown bears. I like you, like a bullet to open up and do as much damage as it can before it go'es out the other side but on a big brown bear in most cases the bullet ain't going through! If it dose it won't leave much for energy on the other side of the bear. For that reson what the bullet lacks in expantion is made up for in penatration. In a medium cal rifle those who like the Barns bullets can keep them. In a super high velocity small cal I have found that the X bullets are the only thing that will shoot accurately in my .220 swift. Having said all that the lighter constructed bullets in a .375 H&H work fine for big bear also. I shoot 300 gr. Sierra GK's in one of my .375's and 270 gr. Hornady's in my other and they have both taken brown bear with one shot. DRSS NRA life AK Master Guide 124 | |||
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How about the Federal 300 grain Nosler Partitions?? | |||
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I don't think you can ever go wrong with a Nosler Partition Tom. They always expand and always penetrate. It would be nice if they bonded the front half though to improve weight retention, but still kept them soft enough to penetrate at long range. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Thanks Akshooter, I'm going to try the 350g Woodleigh PPs if they shoot well in my rifle. They open up pretty quickly to 2 1/2 times diameter yet in pretty extensive testing penetrated as far as the 300g TSX's. As in all hunting the easy part's shooting them, the hard part is finding them ... Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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The 270gr TSX is the go to bullet out of my 375 RUM. I'm getting very good accuracy @ 2930fps. I have seen a couple of these 270gr TSX that have been removed from brown bear, text book expansion and massive penetration. I'm a big fan of the TSX out of my 300 RUM too. Several head of game have been taken with 168gr TSX @ 3270fps and all have shown obvious expansion and total penetration even a lenghtwise shot on a bull moose two year ago. thats 5+ feet of penetration. | |||
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Like the Swift A-Frame. | |||
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I killed my mountain grizzly with one shot at 203 yards with the 300 grain partition. That same trip I shot a caribou at 303 yards with the same bullet.I do have to say they both left a fist sized hole on the way out. | |||
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did those shots strike bone 69deer? | |||
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"The Nosler Partition in the appropriate caliber is never a wrong choice for big game." Bob Hagel's quote, and I concur. A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. G.B. Shaw | |||
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Yes, like the A-Frame except that they would expand easier which would mean they would still expand out at 600 yards and would cause devastating damage up close on thin skin game like the Nosler but still retain 90 plus percent of their weight like the A-Frame Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Nope, There was no bones broke in the caribou and I don't think there was much damage to the carcass of the grizzly. The bullet from the caribou entered the center of the shoulder blade, with just a hole going thru it but the backside where it come out(between the ribs) was a hole you could put your fist thru. I hit the grizzly quartering on from the left side.The bullet went just behind the shoulder and came out in front of the hip. The caribou dropped in this tracks, the grizzly rolled down the slope. Jim kept yelling shoot him again but I couldn't get on him fast enough. He was dead but we did'nt know it until he stopped rolling. Another fist sized hole but you cannot tell it on the rug. | |||
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