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Any one have any stories, DVD/Video's, links showing the reactions of bullet impacts on Brown/Grizzly bears?

I was reading a Hunt Report and one guy mentioned having viewed a large number of video'd bullet impacts, giving him an indication of good vs bad vs misses.

Think something like this should be of value!
 
Posts: 1719 | Location: Utah | Registered: 01 June 2004Reply With Quote
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From some of what I've read on here, bears don't even react unless hit by a big bore. stir
 
Posts: 323 | Location: Fairbanks AK | Registered: 27 August 2002Reply With Quote
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I have a couple stories from friends and relatives of friends. I will try to keep it short.


One of my friends and his dad got in to it with two brown bears while deer hunting. The first bear was a sow and she charged the dad who shot her with a 7mm rem mag and a 175 grain bullet. He hit her under the chin and she flipped backwards and jumped back on her feet and attacked a tree for a few seconds before dying.
When she got back on her feet after falling from the shot she was facing away from the dad and she ran in a straight line to the nearest tree. If she would have been facing the dad she would have tore him up as he said he did not have time to chamber another round before she was back up.

The second bear was a two year old cub nearly the same size as the sow. It ran down the ridge straight to my friend who was carrying a mini-14. He shot most of his 20 round mag at the bear and recalled 13 bullet holes that they found in the head and neck.
He started firing at 20 feet or so and when the bear turned away my friend said he could have touched the bear with his barrel. He fired the last two shots broadside as the bear ran passed him.
The bear ran a few yards and died in the bushes.
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Another brown bear another friend shot with a 338 win mag. The first shot the bear spun around growling and biting at the wound. Then the fun began. He hit the bear four more times(which required reloading) as his hunting partner emptied his gun.
The bear was roaring and charging then standing up and roaring.
My friend said it was like a horror flick and he had never heard of a bear doing such a thing.
His partner was so terrified that he could not even put bullets into his rifle to reload.

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The brother of the friend from the last story also came up on a brown bear on a moose kill. He said the stalk was perfect to about 50 yards. He was shooting a 358 norma mag. He fired hitting the bear in the chest and rolling it.
The bear jumped back up and went on a dead run straight to the hunter. The bear did not see the hunter til about 25 yards but it gave the bear a target when he did see him.
The hunter was frantically trying to fire more shots but the firing pin spring was malfunctioning and gave four or five clicks. The rifle was a springfield so the rifle could be recocked with out cycling the bolt. He either got it to finally fire or put another shell in and shot the bear at 20 feet which killed it. He got a new firing pin spring shortly after that trip.

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I was with one friend who shot a small brown bear in front of the chest where the neck meets the body. That bear was dead before it hit the ground. It was shot with a 300 win mag and 200 partitions.
We loaded the same 300 win mags and 200 partitions rounds for another friend who made the same shot on a large brown bear and it did the same thing, dead with the feet straight out in the air.


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I was with one friend who shot a small brown bear in front of the chest where the neck meets the body. That bear was dead before it hit the ground. It was shot with a 300 win mag and 200 partitions.
We loaded the same 300 win mags and 200 partitions rounds for another friend who made the same shot on a large brown bear and it did the same thing, dead with the feet straight out in the air.


That is impossible a meere 30 cal can not kill any bear horse Wink bsflag horse

Just could not resist!! Hope all are well & good luck with your spring Bear Hunts, PWS here I come!!
 
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Originally posted by RMiller:
I was with one friend who shot a small brown bear in front of the chest where the neck meets the body. That bear was dead before it hit the ground. It was shot with a 300 win mag and 200 partitions.
We loaded the same 300 win mags and 200 partitions rounds for another friend who made the same shot on a large brown bear and it did the same thing, dead with the feet straight out in the air.


That is impossible a meere 30 cal can not kill any bear horse Wink bsflag horse

Just could not resist!! Hope all are well & good luck with your spring Bear Hunts, PWS here I come!!



....So the question really is , how to reply and not take the bait...........................?? Better think about this some more .., gotta go to work ,, mayby in the morning...


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The most typical reaction I have seen is biting the wound for a few seconds, then recovering and running for the brush. I always bear hunt with a partner. The first shooter puts a round through both front shoulders. The second shooter always gives a follow up shot to the boiler room unless the bear is DRT; if it twitches it gets another lead injection.


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Posts: 83 | Location: Wasilla, AK | Registered: 03 August 2007Reply With Quote
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Mine did the bite at the wound trick. 2nd shot put him down for the count.

I have gone to a simple rule for all big game animals if it's not down keep shooting if it down and moving keep shooting


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1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10164 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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R Miller ;;I really enjoyed the stories ........If you have any more please bring them out .... Without stir I would like to say these are the kind of stories I hear very often ............


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Posts: 3445 | Location: Copper River Valley , Prudhoe Bay , and other interesting locales | Registered: 19 November 2006Reply With Quote
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The closest bear I have taken was my 27 3/8" skull using my .338 win mag. I had to walk in to him to get a shot thru the willows and ended up about 15 yards away.

When he stuck his head up to get a look at me I hit him low in the neck at close to the intersection with the shoulders. The bear just slumped down some. I shot him two more times just because I was too close for my comfort.

Two years ago I used my 30-06 to back up a friend on a North Slope Grizzly. We did have to wear him down, but the distances were long and the shooting was poor. The bear was just trying to get away from us.
 
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;.,.,;;Since the request was for bullet impacts on bear... I can only say that The 416 Taylor or Rem mag [ I,m sure the Rigby would be Identicle ]......and the 458 Win mag from what I have seen always create the same result on a bear .,Instantaneous incapacitation and death ...............when shot in the chest wether from the front , side or from behind .......Bears I,ve seen shot with the 338 all went down at the shot but a couple got back up and were dumped for good ..............All were shot at close range , and all of them were very aware of my and or our presence ..........


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Posts: 3445 | Location: Copper River Valley , Prudhoe Bay , and other interesting locales | Registered: 19 November 2006Reply With Quote
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Shot one on Chicagoff Is in 1995 with my 338 with hornady 250 at 45 yards. Just missed the shoulder & bullet entered the chest, taking out aorta. It ran 50 yards into the bush & died after thrashing up the bush. Shot a 2nd on Chicagoff in 2003 using a swift 250 A Frame at 15 yards at last light. It ran into the rush & uphill for about 50 yards;guide stood up to back-up shoot as I squeezed off my shot, so bullet entered just ehind shoulder as it turned; took out lung. Guide went into brush & could hear it breathing; saw something dark & fuzzy & shot 4 times. When we skinned it next AM, guide hit only once, & that was in the hip (boy does it get dark inside the forrest canopy after sunset!)Bottom line is that they were both dead on their feet, but traveled at top speed, too fast to get a 2nd shot off...make the first one a good shot/ chaz
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Most of the bear I have shot or seen shot, had a fit, bit at the wound, rolled over a few times and got up running, hit them again and they do the same thing..

The most awesome sight I ever saw was a bear I shot in Mexico as a kid with my 25-35 Win. it stuffed dirt and grass in the wound and had a real fit and cryed like a baby..It was a sad heart felt kill, and I didn't like it..It was years before I shot another bear..


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I have never hunted bear. I think largely because I would hate to have an experience like Ray had in New Mexico. That would give me the willys. Too much like a person for me to hunt bear. Don't have a problem with other folks doing it.
 
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Posts: 3445 | Location: Copper River Valley , Prudhoe Bay , and other interesting locales | Registered: 19 November 2006Reply With Quote
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Ray, thats creepy.

If I shoot something that wont die I go for the head.


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I know this may be off the subject however I saw a video of a guy shooting a huge brownie with a long bow at maybe 20 yds. the bear swatted at where the arrow had hit. then he sat down just matter of factly like nothing had happened. After what seemed to be about 20 seconds the bear just fell over for his eternal nap. I enjoy vids of bear hunts but have never hunted them. I have been as close as 25 ft from one during deer season. Saw one 2 yrs ago during early muzzle loader broad side at about 40 yds. he was huge.....Pennsylvania has some big black bears.


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OOPS, wrong thread.
I just want my Brown Bear to go

FLOP!!
 
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I hope this works, some good video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqnR3JT9GxQ
 
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