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I hope this video is not too upsetting to you guys
but I am wondering what you guys think killed this bear.


I have my suspicions, but I would like to know what you guys think.

Hmmm....looks like it was having some sort of neurological problems. Pretty weird.

Brett

Distemper would be my guess.

Look like he also a bad case of the mange, parasite. Bear are known to also have lungworm, Could be intestinal blockage out of Hibernation that did not fix itself.That bear was dead after the first roll of his fall. His body had tightened up fully as the legs were like solid and rigid. Heart attack, from some parasitic infection or disease.

Looks like she had a stroke

Does there need to be a reason ?

Where there are live animals there are dead animals. Might have had a congenital defect , and it was simply this bears time .

Its the way of nature , been happening since time began.

Fukashima?

Damned if I know.....there is going to be a whole lot of different kind of death in Alaska for the foreseeable future.

The entire northern hemisphere, most likely.

We ought to be screaming bloody murder, and demanding heroic action from the powers that be.

Say what you will about the Russians...at least they made the effort to fix(contain) Chernobyl.

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and demanding heroic action from the powers that be.

Ya, good luck with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrxmy6R3m90

it's really BAD.

TEPCO has come out and asked for help, admitting it is beyond their capacity to manage.

The cost to contain it now is almost with out number.....the technical questions are unresolved....they are not doing anything, because they don't know what to do......

In order to maintain order, they are not making the extent of the problem widely known. This is wrong....people need to know what the choices are.....

The seismic activity world wide has shown a huge increase in the last few years(lot of evidence coming to light about a relationship between the Sun, and the Earth) if you are interested look for

TheThunderBoltProject

I have doubts of ever fishing in the Pacific Ocean ever again, this makes me sad, but from a larger perspective, we need to get rid of nuclear reactors that might have similar issues(all of them).

The Germans turned all of their reactors off in 2011, at the time I thought it was an over reaction, but I have changed my mind.

We made a huge mistake in the use of nuclear energy, just beyond human capacity to manage(not the absolute ability, just the practical ability). Technically it is doable,but for whatever reasons(greed)we can't do it from a practical perspective.

Sorry to go off in this thread on the wrong subject, but they have had a lot of sea life showing up with lesions in the Gulf of Alaska, and the level of Stronium 89 is 100 times higher today then it was 6 months after the meltdown event in 2011, this was announced by TEPCO a month or so ago, it is a tacit admission that there is still a reaction going on under the facility.

what that means it is still being produced and escaping from the site(half life of 50 days if I recall) The uncontrolled reaction continues at the underside of uncontrolled cores.
This is a real life "China Syndrome"

We are fucked.

where can I order some of whatever you are smoking ???

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Originally posted by low_tech:
it's really BAD.

I have doubts of ever fishing in the Pacific Ocean ever again, this makes me sad, but from a larger perspective, we need to get rid of nuclear reactors that might have similar issues(all of them).
Sorry to go off in this thread on the wrong subject, but they have had a lot of sea life showing up with lesions in the Gulf of Alaska,
We are fucked.

What part of the Gulf of Alaska do you fish in?
Get on the computer after the acid wears off not while trippin out man!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrxmy6R3m90

the levels of radiation are not going down......this means the reaction is still going on... .....

think about that....

the Pacific Ocean is huge, but it is not infinite.

There is 50 years of "used" fuel rods for four(4) different reactors in each fuel pile....the amount of radiation that can potentially get out is enough to destroy the world....and it is not contained......there is no technical solution yet undertaken.....the potential for further "leaks" is practically assured...get hit with another sunami (they had another 1 meter yesterday) and who knows what happens..

if you have doubts, start looking around on the net, see if you disagree

The radiation already released is enough to change the world, cancer rates are spiking, and will continue to go up....as long as the source is not contained.

don't do any acid....but I might have had a few cocktails last night

I have not fished in Alaska in decades....but there is evidence of lots of seals and polar bears having radiation exposure....I can provide links if you PM me.

After waking up from her nap, she seemed pretty concerned about something she either saw or smelled, thus her hustling up the hill to evade something. If it was neurological, what she saw or smelled might have been hallucinated and it might have been a precursor to what was about to and subsequently killed her.

Bears/animals don't just die of old age or a hunter's bullet. Lots of stuff out there to cause a natural death.

Alan

Guys

Is this the result of Obamacare we read about recently ?

Or W A R P station in Alaska ?

They can't put it on the internet if it isn't the truth!

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Originally posted by low_tech:
it's really BAD.
...
I have doubts of ever fishing in the Pacific Ocean ever again, this makes me sad, but from a larger perspective, we need to get rid of nuclear reactors that might have similar issues(all of them).
...
Sorry to go off in this thread on the wrong subject, but they have had a lot of sea life showing up with lesions in the Gulf of Alaska, and the level of Stronium 89 is 100 times higher today then it was 6 months after
...
We are fucked.

All nonsense. The ocean is literally the best place for radioactive waste to go. The volume of the oceans is huge, and the leakage from Japan is quite literally a drop in the bucket. The ocean has a natural level of radioactivity anyways (from erosion of certain isotopes from rocks), which isn't even nudged by this leak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrxmy6R3m90

It is nonsense, of course....

carry on........


in a few years you will not remember this thread, and it will be too late.....

Good luck.

The coat was just shedding, it looks to me she had some sort of seizure brought on by the exercising, some breeds of dog get this it is called exercising induced collapse (EIC) which makes them become unconscious for a period of time and some actually die during these episodes
It is highly likely that the fall and especially the head contact with the rock on her way down was the killing factor

Bad mushrooms?

That belly looked awfully distended. Seeing the bear in fixed rigor, like a brain shot and no relaxation. Poison????

Mike

The rigor only showed up after the head was hit with the rock similar to a prize fighter who gets knocked unconscious their arms and legs stiffen up. The bear was running fluidity up the hill until the seizure occurred, even while the early part of the tumbling the limbs where somewhat relaxed and did not display the rigor as was at the bottom
The extended belly I would think is a results of what it was eating, since this was in the spring the only eatable would be grass which causes a lot of gas especially since it probably ate all it could and went to sleep cause it had nothing else to do but digest

Did DNR or F&G or whoever come and take the body and do a necropsy? that should explain it. Kinda sad. but that's life.

Marine Mammal Act of 1972 is what has killed fishing. Eating too much red meat seized that bears heart.

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Originally posted by low_tech:
Say what you will about the Russians...at least they made the effort to fix(contain) Chernobyl.

Not just Russian but all Soviets. Now Ukraine is stuck with this mess and is trying to cover the entire site with a huge concrete sarcophagus

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Originally posted by Mike Brooks:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by low_tech:
Say what you will about the Russians...at least they made the effort to fix(contain) Chernobyl.

Not just Russian but all Soviets. Now Ukraine is stuck with this mess and is trying to cover the entire site with a huge concrete sarcophagus. Maybe in the next 5 years if they can figure out a way to pay for the work.

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Originally posted by low_tech:
Say what you will about the Russians...at least they made the effort to fix(contain) Chernobyl.

Not just Russian but all Soviets. Now Ukraine is stuck with this mess and is trying to cover the entire site with a huge concrete sarcophagus. Maybe in the next 5 years if they can figure out a way to pay for the work.

Looked like a petite-mal seizure, or a brain aneurism

Idiotic comment on there.

I think these guys killed the bear. They forced it to move just by virtue of them being there. Just think guys, if you weren't out tramping around in its territory, it would be eating a salmon right now! But, I guess you sort of know that. [quote]

Same thing happens with young people at times. Aneurism or some other defect they're born with and suddenly they drop dead, especially after exertion. Can think of a couple high school aged sports players this happened to.


Grizz

I showed the video to my son-in-law who is a biologist with Alaska F&G and he basically agreed with trekker. In fact his last Lab displayed many of the same symptoms, except was not under the same levels for food as young bears are.

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams:
Idiotic comment on there.

I think these guys killed the bear. They forced it to move just by virtue of them being there. Just think guys, if you weren't out tramping around in its territory, it would be eating a salmon right now! But, I guess you sort of know that. [quote]

Same thing happens with young people at times. Aneurism or some other defect they're born with and suddenly they drop dead, especially after exertion. Can think of a couple high school aged sports players this happened to.


Grizz

My thoughts too scared her to death.

I am wondering why the OP thought that this might be disturbing to a bunch of forum members who are used to placing high velocity projectiles into animal bodies.

I'll admit I didn't like watching the video and only did so once.

For me death/ end of life is a serious or sobering event. When I kill I don't high five or fist bump or pump or any of those other NBA-ish celebratory antics. I'll shake hands and offer or accept quiet respectful congratulations but that's about it. The bull I killed this fall was in the process of gathering his harem and putting on weight for winter in the grand effort of survival! Blasting away with my .375 and dancing a jig on top of his head would have earned me a much needed fist bump to the chin.

Unless I can place my man made need for death on the animal I prefer to watch them live, not die. I don't mind watching hunting videos and in some cases even like them but I prefer video or still photos of live ducks, not dead ones. I love and I mean really love deer hunting but I think I enjoy seeing pictures of live big bucks, ( demonstrated to be there and available for me to pursue,) than one that's been tagged by others.

I took no pleasure in watching that bear die. I'd guess it was really painful for a moment or two and then became raven food. A part of The Grand Scheme to be sure and I prefer that kind of exit for myself, but I'd rather not be on youtube.

I found it interesting one rarely sees such happenings.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
I am wondering why the OP thought that this might be disturbing to a bunch of forum members who are used to placing high velocity projectiles into animal bodies.

P dog shooter: I guess you didn't see the " " right in the middle of my post?...... Honestly I can't see how you missed the sarcasm in my post(unless you were posting while asleep) I mean, dang, what do I have to do to make everyone see that I was not serious??
Maybe:

I thought it funny as hell that these two hippy jackasses were so "upset" to see a bear die. Did they think bears lived forever? Or that a wild animal dies in peace?

Scott King
I am like you, in that I don't celebrate the fact that I have killed an animal. Here on AR someone once remarked that I "need to smile" in my "trophy photo because" it looked like I "was attending a funeral". Funny thing is, I always feel like I am attending a funeral when I sit down behind an animal I have killed.