The 15th was our opening day here! Had a nice 5pt 2.5yr old buck walk out at 65yds turn and walk broad side to me. Hit him in the ribs ran about 75yards a dropped. my load was a 280-368 cast from lyman#2/45gr Varget. My son was back at camp and said it"Looked like you jabbed a screwdriver thru a can of red paint remove it and walked down the trail!!! I think after I get the stock thinned and finished add a banded front sight and swivel this is going to be a go to rifle!! Thanks to ALL that worked to make this Group buy go. Clint