If some country (say North Korea) offered a legal (in that country) tiger hunt, would you book it?

If so, how much would you be willing to pay?

BH63

Are there any in North Korea? I would say 100k+ given that markhor are that and so are black rhino!

I don't have enough money.

Dave

No, not in today's social climate. Good luck if you could.

I am not a trophy hunter by any means.

So I have absolutely, positively, no wish to pay a ridiculous price to hunt a rare animal.

I will stick to hunting hundreds of buffalo.

Those poor sods never get a chance to decide how they die.

And be killed by the lowly 375, with one shot too!

Bloody hell, how amazing is that!

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But Saeed, think of your commission!

I think a tiger skin is one of the most beautiful trophies in the world.

Although rare, there are areas with too many tigers, just as there are areas with too many elephants.

Proximity to humans and loss of habitat are the main reason for the decline of tigers.

BH63

No. The only cat I wanted was a leopard and I got him.

Tiger and Jaguar are two animals that convinced me I was born 50 years too late.

As to how much... right now, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were importable that you could get over $750,000 for the first dozen or so.

They have tigers in North Korea ? Would be interesting to know the numbers and status.

Grizz

I would do it but couldn't afford. Love reading Jim Corbett and all the old school tiger hunting in India. Born in the wrong century. Spot and stalk would be the way for me.

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams:
They have tigers in North Korea ? Would be interesting to know the numbers and status.

Grizz

Jack Atcheson Sr wrote a very good hunting book and one of the chapters was about his time in n Korea and how he tried to hunt the tigers there.

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Originally posted by twilli:
I would do it but couldn't afford. Love reading Jim Corbett and all the old school tiger hunting in India. Born in the wrong century. Spot and stalk would be the way for me.

I cut my eyeteeth on Jim Corbett's books.

Could you imagine sitting in a rickety tree stand in dense jungle all night a few yards from human remains waiting for a maneater to show?

That has to be the ultimate excitement in hunting.

BH63

BH63

If I had the financial means I would hunt a tiger if legal but not in North Korea for obvious reasons. Siberian tigers are native to North Korea but the population throughout their whole range is thought to only be in the 300's. Since North Korea is so undeveloped it would be interesting to see what actually might be there.

Mark

Tiger claw is good book
And so is Blue Tiger

I would hunt one for sure. Not sure I could afford it but yea I'm in.

I’ll try and find some pictures from when my uncle was in Vietnam. They killed one on a patrol one night. Another unit found one dead that had tripped a couple claymores they had set.

They have them in South Africa on some of the same farms they conduct contained Lion hunts. Unreal what some people call hunting.

http://ezine.nitroexpress.info...Asia-PDF/Asia309.pdf


My friend (Sam)shot five tigers during his life and his wife (Rose) shot two.He gave me the DVD of one of his and Rose's hunts which was converted from old film.

He said tiger hunting was the best.


Link has his "Maneater of Bastar story".

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If I had the financial means I would hunt a tiger if legal but not in North Korea for obvious reasons.

+1

I've seen a photo of a Siberian tiger legally taken in the 1990s. Yeltsin signed the permit.

Price was significantly north of $100K at the time, if I recall correctly.

I think it would be easy to get $500K today, and $1 million isn't out of the question. If even half of the money were used for legitimate tiger conservation efforts (not just stupid "awareness" work), it would be a net win for the species.

What I wouldn't give to go back in time 60-70 years ago, even for just a couple years. Knowing then what you know now, I'd be all over Tiger hunting, old school African Safaris, big brown bear, Polar Bear, everything. I'd also make sure to make enough of the right investments (ala Back to the Future).

I would also gobble up a bunch of guns that I only wish I could afford today.

Absolutely. A real hunt also. Or do land mines count as fences . Don't forget a real lion hunt will cost you more or less $100.

What a great story

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Originally posted by BuffHunter63:

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Originally posted by twilli:
I would do it but couldn't afford. Love reading Jim Corbett and all the old school tiger hunting in India. Born in the wrong century. Spot and stalk would be the way for me.

I cut my eyeteeth on Jim Corbett's books.

Could you imagine sitting in a rickety tree stand in dense jungle all night a few yards from human remains waiting for a maneater to show?

That has to be the ultimate excitement in hunting.

BH63

His tiger hunts are pure adrenaline rushes. The description of some are pure craziness and folks wouldn't even attempt now.

Tigerhunting on foot in the jungle was the most dangerous kind of hunting available. Only survivors ended up writing a book about it.

The thought is romantic. Reality could be a nightmare.

Excellent book on Maneating Siberian Tiger,
The Tiger, A True Story of Vengeance and Survival by John Vaillant

Jim Corbett was indeed the "Real Deal". I have my own doubts about Kenneth Anderson's claimed exploits;but damned good reading just the same.

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Originally posted by Johnny reb:
I’ll try and find some pictures from when my uncle was in Vietnam. They killed one on a patrol one night. Another unit found one dead that had tripped a couple claymores they had set.

There are reports in Vietnamese and Cambodian press that there are more Tigers than thought in the jungles there. Not here in Thailand, the people eat any animal they can catch.

I would guess that Thailand still has a few tigers left with in remote areas. And I would bet Laos and Myanmar also have some.

BH63

Big game hunting in Manchuria
One episode describes tracking tiger in snow with friend, splitting up and then later on finding blood and friend gone

Another story ( early 19th century) I read about tiger hunting ( caspian subspecies )
in Amu-Darja and Syr-Darja delta ( reeds/tall grass/swamp country)

Buckeyeshooter thailand is a beautiful country. You’re right though they will eat anything. It is a place I need to get back to I’ve only spent about 3 weeks in 2 trips.

I think personally Tigers and Jaguars need a break, they’re two of the most beautiful animals alive and by no means thriving, there is no such thing as an area with too much of either. As apex predators their population collapses faster than it builds when the going gets tough, and prey and habitat get sparse.

I wouldn’t be surprised if both are extinct in the true wild 100 years the rate we’re going. It’s spectacular that the Jaguar has a toe hold in the US again, but I’ve already read posts by people trying to be the first to kill one in the lower 48 in decades. That is the saddest part of our sport, we have to know when it’s appropriate and is a harvest, and when it’s destruction or we’ll sink our own ship.

I also think that if a hunter legally took a Tiger, it could be the end of travelling hunting as it absolutely would be the biggest hunting story in the media of the last century. Lastly, I sincerely mean it if I had a million of fun money to hunt an imaginary legal Tiger tag, I would spend it buying and fighting to protect their habitat and educate the public instead of killing one.

Believe me as an outfitter I understand the argument about hunting dollars being the fuel of conservation, but in this case they’re too far down the wrong path already due to humanity’s activities as a whole.

When the beautiful monsters are gone the mystery and intrigue dies with them. It’d be killing what people like us love.

There are more jaguars than you think in South America. Legalizing jaguar sport hunting in South America is perhaps the only way to save them in the long run. Big estancias hire tigreros to trap and kill jaguars to protect the cattle. If a rancher knew he could pocket $50-100k per cat, he'd surely take a different view. It might also affect how much land is cleared for cattle in the first place, or at least how it is cleared (i.e., maybe ranchers could be convinced to leave larger habitat strips in place).

Could be, I just worry it’s too far gone, the timber cutting, mining, ranching. The cats killed for cattle killing are the fragment, it’s the habitat destruction, which admittedly you address, that’s the real issue. I feel there’s no way to stop illegal timber falling and mining companies with a handful of jaguar tags, I think we’d just kill more jaguars in the end. But, I’m no expert on Jaguars, I spent a good deal of time wishing to see one while in the Amazon on several trips. Only saw an orphan cub at a sanctuary unfortuantley. Also not sure about Brazil’s new president and his interest in conservation.

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I have read reports that there are more live tigers in the hands of private collectors than there are in the wild.

Too bad, tigers have no issues with eating people, otherwise they could be successfully replenished from those in captivity.

I would think North Korea, with it's totalitarian, dictatorial government would have plenty of tigers, since killing a tiger illegally would probably get you the death penalty carried out immediately.

I've been reading some old accounts of how locals set up trip wires to fire bolts from homemade cross bows in order to kill marauding tigers.

In Chiang Mai, Thailand a few years ago, I saw a couple of young men on a motorbike. One of them was carrying an evil looking crossbow, that appears to have been made from a leaf spring of a truck. There was some wicked looking metal bolts as well. So maybe there are some old fashioned tiger hunters out there.

As for the rest of us, we can still dream, though.

BH63

Who were the two brothers from Arizona or New Mexico that were among the last jaguar hunters. They hunted with their hounds all throughout North and South America. I read an article about them two or three years ago in Shooting Sportsmen or Sporting Classic. If I remember correctly, they were hunting Jaguars in North America up until the 1980's.

I'm like Saeed and love to hunt buffalo, but I'd give a whole lot to hunt a tiger. One of my friends has two full body mounts and they are incredible. Also, when I was a kid there was a businessman in our town that hunted everything, everywhere. He had a "lodge" on his farm about 10 milkes out of town and had most of his mounts in the lodge, including a tiger, all of which was amazing to an 11 year old kid.

North Korea has very good sika deer hunting as well. A former Indian diplomat friend said that they were given great service and treated like royalty in the 1980s. I am sure that was because of India's political status at that time.