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Hi all,

I shot my first moose ever this last Sunday morning with my Remington 700 in 458 Win Mag. In spite of a perfect lung shot (with zero meat damage) this bull decided to run about 110 yards at very high speed before slowing down and crashing in the forest (you can see the quite big opening in the background of the picture where I was and where I shot him. This is also where 95% of the run took place).

The bullet was a Speer 400gr Flat Nose. This bullet has been totally torn apart at the Swedish forum that I also participate in, so from now on I will be using the Woodleigh 400gr Protected Point.

It's interesting - with a perfect lung shot like this I might as well have used about any caliber and bullet in the world. But anything less than the .458 would not have been able to produce the one inch diameter hole through the moose [Wink]

I love my Remington 700 Safari and you will have to "pry it from my hands".

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I thought yall called the moose, - ELK. Any way whatever you call it that is a nice moose. Congratulations!

Seems strange that animals can run so far with such a big chunk out of their hide, but it happens.

David
 
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Congrats on the moose. Looks like a whole bunch of fine eating!

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the speer 400 FP is a very very soft bullet. Nice moose. I bet you are proud.
 
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Originally posted by David Thomas:
I thought yall called the moose, - ELK. Any way whatever you call it that is a nice moose. Congratulations!

Seems strange that animals can run so far with such a big chunk out of their hide, but it happens.

David

In Swedish it is "�lg" and the vowel is quite unpronounceable without practice!

I shot a bull moose with my .375 H&H and 270gr Barnes X-bullet. It was close to an one inch exit hole!

The bull still ran for a minute or two in spite of leaving quite a few pieces of both lungs at the shooting place.

Moose ain't too bright and often seem to take a while to realize that they are dead... and adrenaline works wonders!

jpb

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Originally posted by exabit:
Hi all,

I shot my first moose ever this last Sunday morning with my Remington 700 in 458 Win Mag. In spite of a perfect lung shot (with zero meat damage) this bull decided to run about 110 yards at very high speed before slowing down and crashing in the forest...

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I shot a bull moose with my .375 H&H and 270gr Barnes X-bullet. It was close to an one inch exit hole!

The bull still ran for a minute or two in spite of leaving quite a few pieces of both lungs at the shooting place.

You guys have to learn that you need a BIG gun, like the "sex�'nhalv" to kill Swedish moose... [Big Grin]

-- Mats
 
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When I expansion tested the Speer bullet in wet paper it turned into a beautiful mushroom. Also, a gunstore owner I know have been using it in his 458 (at 458 speeds) with good results. Nevertheless, I will be using the Woodleigh from now on.

With a shot thru the lungs pretty far back like the one I shot I suspect that you could use a 600NE and still get a moose that decides to go for a sprint. There's not much tissue back there to submit any massive amounts of energy. I guess you have to decide what you want - meat or drop dead moose. In my case this was no option since there are nine persons hunting one moose. Whoever shoots it will get crap if he destroys too much meat.
 
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Congrats on the moose. Very nice.

I am hardly an expert on moose. I do remember reading somewhere, I think on the Alaska DNR site, than it takes about 2 minutes for a moose to drop after being shot. The article stated that it takes that long for the brain to quit working because it takes that long for an animal that large to bleed out.

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Congrats on the Bull Moose.....I think given the size of moose in general they could sprint a while especially if they were "supercharged" on adrenalin from dogs chasing them all over the forest.
 
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That's alot of steaks!

Congratulations.
 
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Thank you all for your congrats!

Tombo21: it's not stated in my "report", but there were no dogs involved at all here. I was climbing up on the ladder to my "shooting tower" (don't know any better expression) when I noticed three grown moose in the corner of my left eye. I actually shot the "biggest" one standing on the ladder to the shooting tower. I'm sorry for not giving you the whole story like I did on the Swedish forum.
 
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congratulation nice trophy. didn't you feel a little bit undergunned? [Big Grin] 460 weatherby could certaily do a better job [Wink]
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Thanks Danny, I remember you from the Swedish forum! Indeed, a 460 Weatherby or 500 A-Square would have made me feel more secure [Wink]

How's it going with your DGR plans?
 
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hi
i still dreaming of africa and gentely approaching retirement age [Big Grin] with the same working velocity i would be ready with the DGR at the age of retirment [Big Grin] i may find a nice old HVA 640 or brno zg 47 in 9,3x62 and altered it(LW barrel with faster twist rate for stabilizing long heavy buletts) for that purpose maybe in the ten near years to come [Smile]
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Nice Moose
You might also try the Hornady 350gr. RN.
I have used it in the 45/70, 458 and in my 450 No2 double at a velocity of 2330fps with good results. They feed excellent in bolt or lever rifles.
 
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NE 450 No 2: I exansion tested the 350gr Hornady RN and I really don't believe in it. It went flet like a plate after going into my box of wet paper (2nd and 3rd from left in picture below). Much worse than the 400gr Speer FN (although this one is suppose to be developed for 45-70 velocities).

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I already received my 400gr Woodleigh PP and I intend to use them until further notice. Expect them to behave well when going into bone (God forbid!).

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I shot and Elk here in Idaho with my 30-06, it blew off the bottom 2" of the heart and it still took a bit before it fell over.
 
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Verry nice animal [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
Perfict eating and packing size!!
Congratulations [Wink]
 
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Looks like you have some mighty fine eating there.
 
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