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19 October 2011, 13:26
Boabab
Help Please
Does any one know the US Outfitter Tusk and Hides?
We requested him to represent us in the USA. He was very keen until he got his money now he is always away or busy when you want an answer.
This has happened to 2 of us of whom I know of.
Please help with any available info
Margie


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19 October 2011, 18:59
Labman
I can't help with US Outfitter Tusk and Hides since I've never heard of them, but if you decide to change agents I'd contact one of the reputable agents who post on AR. Mark Young and Wendell Reich are the first two that come to mind.


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19 October 2011, 19:13
impala#03
Check out Jeff Neal in Tulsa, OK. His group is top drawer.
19 October 2011, 20:40
butchloc
i just looked at their website. something pretty fishy to me. no names, no address, only telephone number lists as being in northern minnesota & I've never heard of them there.
20 October 2011, 12:54
Boabab
Thanks for your help. We will try them.
Margie

quote:
Originally posted by Labman:
I can't help with US Outfitter Tusk and Hides since I've never heard of them, but if you decide to change agents I'd contact one of the reputable agents who post on AR. Mark Young and Wendell Reich are the first two that come to mind.



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20 October 2011, 12:56
Boabab
Thanks for your help. I will contact them and see what we can do.ThanksMargie
quote:
Originally posted by impala#03:
Check out Jeff Neal in Tulsa, OK. His group is top drawer.



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20 October 2011, 13:02
Boabab
Thanks for your efford. We do appreciate it.
If they are a scam then we should let every one know. Thanks again Margie

quote:
Originally posted by butchloc:
i just looked at their website. something pretty fishy to me. no names, no address, only telephone number lists as being in northern minnesota & I've never heard of them there.



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20 October 2011, 19:01
Matt Graham
You requested THEM to be your agent?? bewildered Why???


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20 October 2011, 22:15
Boabab
They were looking for hunting outfitters in Namibia. We approached them, thinking they would represnt us at shows and do marketing for us in the US. This was a horrible mistake.


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20 October 2011, 22:20
Boabab
If you have a look at the Africa Hunting.com forum you will see that we are not the only ones they have run inn. We are far from the US and they think they are safe.
They had a face book page but this has disapeared.
Would appreciate help.


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22 October 2011, 20:50
MARK H. YOUNG
Margie,

Reading through this thread it seems you gave Tusks and Hides money. Why would you do that? He should be collecting money for you. I don't get it.

Mark


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22 October 2011, 23:39
Boabab
Yes I do agree Mark. His theory was that he was representing us at trade shows and will then only ask a very small commission 2% for each booking.We gave him US$1300.00. There are 3 Outfitters in S.A. he also had!
It is an expensive lesson.


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23 October 2011, 14:51
A.Dahlgren
quote:
Tusk and Hides


I can see my elephant pic in his trophy gallery, I emailed him to remove it and he responded within 2 hours that he would. Its still there though.


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23 October 2011, 18:03
Boabab
Would be intresting as to what happens. I would like to warn every one of these guys. He has cost us a great deal of money. What gets me most is the dishonesty of the group and that they ride on honest hard working folk.
We must warn every one!


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23 October 2011, 19:42
Matt Graham
I am sorry to hear about this happening... very bad.

If you are looking for agents then you will find some very good ones on this very site - Wendell Reich, Aaron Neilson, Greg Rodriguez, plenty others...


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23 October 2011, 23:47
Boabab
Thanks Matt
I have a feeling that they all have their Outfitters in Nam.
But thanks for the recommendations.
Will see what they say. Most are a bit put off as Iam not a guy. 90% of the participants are all guys on this site.
But thanks again. Iam very greatful for any help.
Margie


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24 October 2011, 01:56
dinsdale
quote:
Originally posted by Boabab:
Thanks Matt
I have a feeling that they all have their Outfitters in Nam.
But thanks for the recommendations.
Will see what they say. Most are a bit put off as Iam not a guy. 90% of the participants are all guys on this site.
But thanks again. Iam very greatful for any help.
Margie


I don't think anyone cares if your a woman or man representing your hunts......I booked 2 different Namibian hunts because I talked to the wives not just the PH husbands.

Stick around the forum and contribute; not just the hunt offering part but others as well (just like you did with the Etosha info)and folks will take an interest in you and your hunts.

Learn to post pics.....everyone here like to see recent hunts and most like and enjoy all things animal and plant from Africa.

Bookings are still tough for everyone right now; one outfitter I know near Otavi relies on one SCI chapter and an agent from Argentina without whom they would be light on clients.

Sorry you got jammed up with this company. Need to be careful lots of guys wanting a free hunt who come home and call themselves agents after one trip also.

Good luck.
24 October 2011, 02:25
dinsdale
I notice on their web site no name of the owner or an address.....A big red-flag in my book.

Often these types re-invent themselves to pull off scams again.....

Have an actual name of those involved?
24 October 2011, 05:24
Matt Graham
Can a few of you USA guys send them enquiries and try and find out who they are?? tu2


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24 October 2011, 05:55
dinsdale
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Can a few of you USA guys send them enquiries and try and find out who they are?? tu2


Wink

tu2
24 October 2011, 11:41
Boabab
Thanks every one for all the support you are giving us. It is greatly appreciated.
Margie


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24 October 2011, 22:08
Boabab
Hi What a surprize. The Tusk and HHide guy Dave has just sent a booking enquiery. Did any of you send him a request?
What should I do?


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24 October 2011, 22:18
elk88101
Boabab
Maybe give the guy at least a chance.
You will know better when the deposit money comes.
Sometimes it takes a little fire on the feet to get people moving.
Larry
24 October 2011, 22:36
MARK H. YOUNG
Margie,

You being a woman has no bearing with an agent that has even a small brain. If yo uknow your business you know your business. Period! With the outfit that I book for in Zambia the owner's wife does ALL the work other than the hunting and she does a remarkable job regardless of her sex.

You are in an incredibly competetive business in trying to sell PG hunts. In my experience you either have to offer low prices or something unique to be very successful.

Mark


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24 October 2011, 22:47
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
With the outfit that I book for in Zambia the owner's wife does ALL the work other than the hunting and she does a remarkable job regardless of her sex.

Mark


I'll second that!!


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24 October 2011, 22:57
Boabab
Thanks for the motivation and the kind words.
We are a special family! The best white ,,Bushmen"in the business are the PHs.


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24 October 2011, 22:59
Boabab
I''ll see what he offers!
Just wanted to ask if some one in the forum contacted him to see hoe he responds!

quote:
Originally posted by elk88101:
Boabab
Maybe give the guy at least a chance.
You will know better when the deposit money comes.
Sometimes it takes a little fire on the feet to get people moving.
Larry



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25 October 2011, 04:26
Cazador humilde
quote:
Originally posted by elk88101:
Boabab
Maybe give the guy at least a chance.
You will know better when the deposit money comes.
Sometimes it takes a little fire on the feet to get people moving.
Larry


And the deposit just happens to be US$1,300.00....
25 October 2011, 10:31
Boabab
If you x by 10 he is in for a GOOD THING!I will see what he is up to. He has not kept any of his agreement! I will keep you posted!


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25 October 2011, 21:41
Big Game Hunter
Regardless if he sends a deposit and hunters to you or not, something just doesn't sound right with this guy.

Agents that I am aware of, I happen to be one of them myself, don't operate the way this guy does.

Good luck and be careful.


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25 October 2011, 22:49
Boabab
I don't know what they are up to but they sent me a mail. Then they asked me to phone them. I said I need all in writing.
As they say once bitten twice shy!
Thanks for your comments


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26 October 2011, 00:24
leopards valley safaris
Surely the "lacey Act" has been broken.We hear so much about it.Thats a Federal offence if Im not mistaken.So you could theoretically lay a charge with the FBI??
Confused


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26 October 2011, 12:06
Boabab
I would if it would help. Get some compensation!
Will have to see if there is any one who has a legal education who could help. If it is only to warn these guys not to mess about!


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28 October 2011, 10:17
Boabab
Have you heard from them?


quote:
Originally posted by A.Dahlgren:
quote:
Tusk and Hides


I can see my elephant pic in his trophy gallery, I emailed him to remove it and he responded within 2 hours that he would. Its still there though.



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28 October 2011, 10:19
Boabab
How can i ask them to repay my deposit?
I want to use it for other means.


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02 November 2011, 21:31
Boabab
Just heard of another safari outfitter in South Africa who fell for these guys! The Outfitter paid him US$ 2000.00 Tusk and Hide LLC
Po Box 157
Eveleth, Minnesota
218-744-0435

Invoice #55407 06/12/2011

Baobab Game Ranch cc
P.O.Box 372
Grootfontein
Namibia
email: driehoek@mweb.com.na
www.baobab.com.na
Tel: +264(0)67 232055
fax 2 computer: 0886141606
Handy:+264 81 244 0383
Fax:+264 (0)67 232023



1 Year of advertising on Tuskandhidesafaris.com
The Main page ad package includes the Safari page plus the all concessions and marketing materials for duration of the contract.
1 full page ad , 9 high res photos, detail description of services, rates, packages, contact information and a website link. Free in Inclusion into all company newsletters.

All hunts booked through agents are at 5% commission.

Total 1300.00

Deposit $650.00 Balance Due upon first booking of $650.00 Tusk and Hide LLC Guarantees you will book 1 group in the first year of advertising from the agency or the website or the ad runs free.

Please send wire transfer control number to the office once it is completed.


Wire Transfer Info:
BIC Code (swift): WFBIUS6S

Wells Fargo Bank:

Account number: 3778304521
Routing Number: 530000392

Receiver:
Simon Trajkovich
222 Adams Ave suite 301
Eveleth Minnesota 55734

Office phone 1-218-428-5341

In care of Destination Wild LLC


I don,t see us on the webpage nor has he sent a client before he demanded the 2nd half.


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06 November 2011, 11:49
fujotupu
(Quote)....I don,t see us on the webpage nor has he sent a client before he demanded the 2nd half.[/QUOTE]

Baobab:

Don't pay the balance until the goods are delivered if at all they ever will be and consider this saga as another lesson learned.
It will probably save you some money in the long run - and redo your maths before doing business with another agent.
There are quite a few well known, honest ones here on AR.
06 November 2011, 14:09
Boabab
Thanks Fujotupu


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08 November 2011, 02:50
infinito
I have spoken to Dave a lot on the phone. WE insist that an agent must visit us in South Africa to see our fascilities and hunt with us for at least 7 days before they represent us. Unless it is on of the few top dogs out there contacting us. Problem with the top dogs is that they are well respected and have long standing working relationships with their outfitters. The reason why they are the top dogs!

Too be honest, I entertained Dave with his stories untill he asked for money. The game simply just does not work like that.

Good luck with getting your money back. Best thing is to forget about it and see it as school money!


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08 November 2011, 10:07
Boabab
Thanks Charl
It just gets me!


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