Dear Hunters!

I would like to offer a Mid-Caucasian Tur hunt in 2012.

Hunting area: Bezengi camp (River Cherek valley) Kabardino-Balkaria, Russia.

Season: August 1 - November 25

Hunting: Classical mountain spot-and-stalk hunt at 8200-11500 feet/2500-3500m altitude.

Accomodation: Base camp - hunting house at 7200 feet/2200m, fly camp - tents at 8200 feet/2500m.

Approximate schedule:
day 1: arrival in Moscow, custom formalities, overnight in the hotel,
day 2: domestic flight to Nalchik (2,5 hours), transfer to the hunting camp,
day 3: climb to the fly camp, evening hunt if possible,
day 4-10: 7 day hunt,
day 11: back to Nalchik, overnight in the hotel,
day 12: departure Moscow, overnight or departure home.

Price: 11.000 US$ - 1x1; 10.000 US$ - 2x2.
12-day trip, 7-day hunt, including 1 Tur trophy up to 11 years
+ 1.000 US$ per each year over 11 years;

Price includes: visa support documents; meet&greet at the airport of Moscow, Nalchik; accompanying of company representative; PH; transfer from airport to/from the hunting area; gun import permit; vet certificates; accommodation and meals in the hunitng area; standart hotel and meals in Nalchik; all serving staff incl. interpreter; trophy field care.
Extra costs: airline ticket to/from Moscow; domestic airfare Moscow-Nalchik-Moscow; visa; tips; dip&pack, trophy shipment.

Contact details:
Stalker group Ltd,
Moscow, Russia
phone/fax +7 499 604 48 68
phone +7 495 755 48 51
phone +7 495 755 48 52
hunt@stalker-group.com
www.stalker-group.com

This is not a deal or discount. I can get this pricing from others for several thousand less.

Please post a real discount, else, you are not following the spirit of this forum thread.

Thank you.

This is the gentleman's OFFERED hunt, no problem there. I'm just curious why the 2x2 hunt is more than the 1x1 ?

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Originally posted by Hunter54:
This is not a deal or discount. I can get this pricing from others for several thousand less.

Please post a real discount, else, you are not following the spirit of this forum thread.

Thank you.

"Outfitters - OFFERED and Discounted Hunts"

They key word is offered. He offered and you don't like it so move on. No rules have been broken here.

Brett

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Originally posted by Webster:
This is the gentleman's OFFERED hunt, no problem there. I'm just curious why the 2x2 hunt is more than the 1x1 ?

Dear Webster,
You are right that notice our misprint, of course the price 1x1 is 11.000 US$ and 2x2 is 10.000 US$.
Thank you.

quote:

Originally posted by Hunter54:
This is not a deal or discount. I can get this pricing from others for several thousand less.

Please post a real discount, else, you are not following the spirit of this forum thread.

Thank you.

Dear Friends!
I would like to explain why we think our offer as a good deal. As on every market, there are many offers on the hunting market too. Some of them are cheap, some of them are more expensive. What are the factor that influence the price, they are very numerous: accommodation type, service level, the density of population in the area, the way how the area is protected from poaching. Of course, we all made the best choice according to our needs.
Why we think our offer a good deal - because it is a private area, that is taken a good care of, the owner pays a lot of attention to protect the area. The area itself is situated just near the national park, where there is no hunting, but Tur are always living the borders of the national park. There was no hunting pressure on the area, because commercial hunting is just starting there.
So in terms of quality of hunt and its pricing, we think that it is a reasonable and a good deal!

Pictures would be nice to see of these bigger trophies than average.

I did this hunt with Profi Hunt and this was the worst hunting trip I have ever been on in my life!!!!!!! I can not say that it is in the same area but if any one is considering doing this hunt really check into it. We were told that it would be pre-scouted and it was all false, on top of that we saw very few animals and were moving camp almost every day. You must be in top condition to consider doing this hunt. My friend and I had a vertical accent of 7150 feet in one day...this was on an altimeter.
Be careful of this "deal". This hunt is not any discount at all!!

Dear Friends!

Here are some pictures of Bezengi Camp area in Kabardino-Balkaria just to give you the idea. On one of them you can see the owner of the area - Mr. Pilugin with his Mid-Caucasian Tur trophy. This trophy takes now the first place in SCI record book (score 168"). SCI scores are: the length of the left horn - 36 4/8", the length of the right horn is 39 6/8". Another trophy taken by the owner takes the fifth place at the same SCI record book. There are also pictures of the base camp itself, cars that are used for the transfers and the landscape itself. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask.

phone/fax +7 499 604 48 68
phone +7 495 755 48 51
phone +7 495 755 48 52
hunt@stalker-group.com
www.stalker-group.com

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Originally posted by Jim Kelly:
I did this hunt with Profi Hunt and this was the worst hunting trip I have ever been on in my life!!!!!!! I can not say that it is in the same area but if any one is considering doing this hunt really check into it. We were told that it would be pre-scouted and it was all false, on top of that we saw very few animals and were moving camp almost every day. You must be in top condition to consider doing this hunt. My friend and I had a vertical accent of 7150 feet in one day...this was on an altimeter.
Be careful of this "deal". This hunt is not any discount at all!!

Hi Jim,
At first we would like to thank you for your feedback. And we totally agree with you and also appeal to hunters to be careful while making their choice among a lot of “deals” on the hunting market, be careful not only in terms of honesty and professionalism of outfitter, but also, as Jim said, be careful in terms of real estimation of your personal physical ability to manage the hunt.
I know about your hunting trip with Profi Hunt. You were hunting with Chris Jackson and two more friends in Tyrnyaus area if I remember correct. It is in 4-5 hours’ drive distance from the area we are offering now. Your area is just from another side of a mountain range we hunt.
Here is the comparison of both areas:
1. Bezengi camp area is a little bit easier physically. Mountains are not as vertical as in Tyrnyaus. But still hunter should be in a good physical shape and more than this it should a hunter, who experienced mountain hunt before. I agree with you, and I am transparent to inform hunters about this before they come.
2. In both areas, in Bezengi as well as in Tyrnyaus, cars are used to get to the base-fly camp. The difference is that in Tyrnyaus, the sheep sherd that they use for the purpose is the final camp, the one you stalk your trophy from. In Bezengi camp, the base-fly camp is half-way one and we take you by horses or sometimes by cars (where it is possible) to the destination tented fly camp, deeper into the mountains, and then from this very fly camp you already walk, climb and stalk the trophy, coming back every day to your fly camp.
3. Bezengi area is a private area, and camp staff is stuck to the place, while Tyrnyaus it is state area and local guides get ridiculous salaries, and sometimes guides try to screw out tips just to show you big trophies.
Moreover, hunters don’t expect to see the realities of Azerbaijan Tur hunt while hunting Tur in Russia. The reality of Azerbaijan is that naturally the density of Tur population is higher there and at a time you can see groups of 100 Tur species. In Russia, we don’t have such a density of Tur population – and it is also the reality of this hunt. It is not because of the lack of pre-scouting, or lack of professionalism of your outfitter. Of course the above-mentioned reasons can also harm your hunt. But you will not see Mid Tur or Kuban Tur in numbers that you can see Dagestan Tur in Azerbaijan. Just be ready for this before you come.

Anna Chepiga

STALKER GROUP LTD
Dobroluybova str. 3/1
127254 Moscow, Russia
Tel: +7(495) 755 48 52
Fax: +7(495) 604 48 68
Skype: Stalker_Anna

anna@stalker-group.com
www.stalker-group.com

Hi Anna,
Yes I did hunt with Chris Jackson and I do remember talking with you (thru email) before we left for that trip. Even though our hunt was not the best I must say that the Caucasus Mountains were beautiful. After my return home I vowed to never hunt in Russia again but now that I've had time to think I would love to go back under different conditions and more organization. I don't think I would hunt for Mid-Cauc Tur but I would try for Kuban Tur instead. I know most of the hunters who have hunted with Ali have had great things to say about how he conducts his hunts.
Jim

Hi Jim,

Nice to hear from you! I am glad to know that our Mountains are still pulling you despite all the difficulties that you faced during your previous trip.
As for Ali, he is perfect PH, I agree with you. Many hunters took their trophies with his assistance. He knows the hunting area perfectly, he has horses trained for mountain trips, and he is working hard till the final second of your hunting trip without giving up. That is the main factors that allow me to call him perfect PH.
You know Caucasus, in this very place many things depend on the weather, but if we talk about success rate of Ali as PH when the weather allows you to do the hunt, it is almost 90%.

I don’t know what outfitter you will finally choose for your possible hunting trip in Caucasus, but I definitely know that I would like to be among those to choose from. Let’s get in contact and discuss what organization and conditions you expect from your possible future trip to Russia, who knows maybe I can make you the offer you cannot resist.

Anna Chepiga

STALKER GROUP LTD
Dobroluybova str. 3/1
127254 Moscow, Russia
Tel: +7(495) 755 48 52
Fax: +7(495) 604 48 68
Skype: Stalker_Anna

anna@stalker-group.com
www.stalker-group.com