The outfitter in France who I work with just informed me that they still have a few tags left over for Alpine Chamois (other chamois species may also be available so please inquire). Hunts have to be done before January.

While not well known, France offers hunters great hunting opportunities. Our outfitter is one of the best and is well known for his Chamois hunts. With a good density of game, hunters can expect close to a 100% shot opportunity. Depending on the hunter’s physical abilities the outfitter will do his best to select the right area for his hunt. He has informed me that they have a very good network of roads so hunters who are not so physically fit will also be able to hunt chamois without too much trouble.

Hunt Cost:

Four days, three nights and two days of hunting.

Alpine Chamois - €5.200
Corsican Mouflon - €5.000 (adult male)

*Package price includes a trophy size of up to 110 points CIC for male Chamois and 105 points for female Chamois.

Additional Trophy Fees (payable locally in €):
Chamois Buck 111 to 119 points CIC € 1.000
Chamois Buck 120 points CIC and above € 1.500
Chamois Female 105 to 114 points CIC € 1.000
Chamois Female 115 points CIC and above € 1.500
Additional Animals if Opportunity Arises:
Mouflon - € 3.000
Wild Boar – €500
Alpine chamois (maximum 110pts male or female 105pts) - € 3.000
Roe Deer - € 1.200


Hunting Area:
The Alps in general and more specifically the departments of Isere, Drome, the Alpe de Hautes Provence and the Alpes Maritimes. The department and the hunting area are selected according to the desired game, the season and also the physical condition of each hunter.

Season:

From now until January.

Hunt Itinerary:

Day 1: Arrival in Lyon, Grenoble, Nice or Digne les Bains on your own by train or plane.
Day 2: The first day of hunting with your guide with an overnight stay in the mountains.
Day 3: 2nd day of hunting, returning in the late afternoon and overnight at a hotel.
Day 4: After breakfast at the hotel, transfer back to the airport or train station of your choice.

The Price Includes:

• Guide
• Reception at the airport or railway station
• Transfers to the hunting area and back
• Three Star hotel accommodation in a single room
• All meals excluding drinks
• Hunting license for the period of stay


The Price does not Include:

• Air and Rail Transport
• Gun hire with one box of ammunition - €120
• Tips and personal expenses
• Extension of stay


WE CAN OFFER ALL 4 SPECIES OF CHAMOIS IN FRANCE SO PLEASE INQUIRE.

Thanks for looking:



Arjun Reddy
www.huntersnetworks.com
30 Ivy Hill Road
Brewster, NY 10509
Tel: +1 845 259 3628

Arjun,
Now that you talk of the different rupicapra subspecies that can be found in France, I could be interested in the cartusiana, the one found in Charteusse (spelling?).
If you could please provide the details and confirm the availability.
Thank You!

not Arjun,

but in France you have the Isard (Pyrenees) and Chamois (alps). never hunted them in the pyrenees but seems the hunt is great too.

chamois has been introduced also in Alsace and Massif Central.

Medved,
In France you have the two chamois that you mention, rupicabra pyrenaica (isard) and rupicapra r. rupicapra (Alpine chamois), plus the rupicapra r. cartusiana found in Chartreuse, plus another (debatable) subspecies which is found in Vercors.
Having hunted isard and Alpine, it is the cartusiana that I am interested in.

In France there are 4 species of Chamois:

Alpine
Pyrenean
Vercors
Chartreuse

the Alpine and the Pyrenean Chamois are the more affordable. The other two species are more for collectors and the hunts are priced as follows:

Hunt Cost:
Four days, three nights and two days of hunting.
Vercors Chamois - € 11,500
Chartreuse Chamois - € 16,000

Package price includes price includes a trophy size of up to 110 points CIC for male and 105 points for female.

Additional Trophy Fees (payable locally in €):
Chamois Buck 111 to 119 points CIC € 1,000
Chamois Buck 120 points CIC and above € 1,500
Chamois Female 105 to 114 points CIC € 1,000
Chamois Female 115 points CIC and above € 1,500

I will have to check availability if anyone is interested. Please call or PM me.

****We can also offer Carpathian Chamois hunts in Romania. These are the largest species of Chamois going****


Arjun Reddy
www.huntersnetworks.com
30 Ivy Hill Road
Brewster, NY 10509
Tel: +1 845 259 3628
email: arjun@huntersnetworks.com

Thank You, Arjun, but I pass.

It is just too pricey and I cannot justify myself spending so much money in another Chamois just because he lives in a different mountain. :

montero

Montero I agree the other two chamois species are mainly for collectors . Not many permits hence the high cost of the hunts.

they are for collectors for sure as when i did my training for Chamois hunting ... few moons ago the 1938 classification for chartreuse was no more and the Vercors was only for selling ...

thus there is only two classifications given by the french hunting authorities chamois and isard ...

Sorry, I had not seen your post, Mr. Bear.

Though there is still not an agreement among the scientific community on the particulars and specifics of the components of the genus Rupicapra, as a hunter I lean towards their phenotype classification.

In CIC`s Caprinae Atlas of the World this approach is supported by the idea that “geographic populations of Chamois have distinct zoological, historical and conservation values beyond any molecular dispute”.

The convention is two consider two species: Rupycapra pyrenaica, with three different subspecies (Pyrenean, Cantabrian and Apennine chamois), and Rupicapra rupicapra, wth seven (Alpine, Chartreuse, Tatra, Carpathian, Caucasian, Balkan, and Anatolian)

Regarding the Charteuse chamois, it was proposed as a different subspecies by Couturier in 1938. “Rupicapra r cartusiana has, from a taxonomic point of view, a few intermediate characteristics which place it as a link between pyrenaica and rupicapra species… Electrophoretic studies (Pemberton et al, 1989) produced sufficient evidence for a genetic variation from R r rupicapra” (CIC Caprinae Atlas of the World).

In my mind, that may not be the case with Vercors chamois, but I honestly think R r cartusiana is a different subspecies of chamois and not a commercial thing for collectors.

Montero,

we should continue in PM.

i didnt buy CIC litterature, do not forget they are here for scoring and scoring means money like SCI, RW and others ....

Medved;

With due respect, your oversimple approach to the classification of genus Rupicapra is in competition with your unknowingness about CIC.

CIC was registered in Paris in 1930 and during its 85 years of existance it has come to be recognized globally as a reliable advisory body in the field of wildlife conservation. It is a politically independent advisory body which aims to preserve wild game and hunting by promoting the sustainable use of wildlife resources.

It is a non profit organisation respectful of the diversity of wildlife and people that provides advice and stimulates and shares knowledge to show hunting is good for conservation.

CIC aims to maintain valued traditions and cultural heritage of hunting, developing and establishing standards, policy, legislation and best practice guides, supporting applied scientific research, facilitating the dissemination of scientific knowledge.

I'd rather leave it here than carry on, even through PMs, as it seem to be one of those occasions when someone will just not drin any water, regardless how thirsty he is. As I said at the beginning, with due respect.

montero

Montero,

when someone started with respect and treated someone like a retard or narrow minded didnt show any respect at all ....

anyway CIC was founded in 1928 not 30. for being independant i cant see how you can so as over 26 ministry or stage agencies are represented there ...

again as i told you french hunting authorities do not recognize the chartreuse nor the vercors as different ecotypes anymore.

i do not hunt anymore in france since 2003 where i took my last chamois but already at that time the kind recognized was chamois and isard nothing else ... whatever others can say or sell ...

if some collectors want to do so but as interbreed started a while ago and before 2003 despite with some experts can say there is no more such a complete chartreuse chamois ecotype, otherwise im wondering why he has been removed from the french book?

i have enough of that and with no respect on that matter lol.

I can't remember which show it was but there was an outstanding show on chamois hunting in France in the last 60 days. Definitely more interesting than I thought possible.

Jim Shockey had a 2 part show hunting the chamois and mouflon in france. I thought it was a good show.

You will hunt in the same area with the same guides as featured in Shockey's show with us.

Arjun