Hi Guys,

Okay here is a deal that i would like to put forward on AR for a lion hunt that would take place in October of 2010.

18 days @ $1500 USD per day if the cat is shot
trophy fee @ $8000 USD

Total = $ 35 000 USD

If no cat is shot then a refund of $ 500 USD per day will be given back = $ 9 000 USD as well as the trophy fee of $ 8 000 USD

Alternatively day rate at $1000 USD per day @ 18 days, when the cat is shot balance of $500 USD per day payable as well as trophy fee

The area is known for its outstanding Elephant, Buffalo, Kudu, Nyala as well as huge leopard and lion that are available from end of August. The area offers hunters the rare opportunity at a shot at some of the truly big trophies in the above from 90 plus pounder elephant that have been hunted there and are often seen in the area to buffalo of 46” that have been taken to 63” Kudu that have also been hunted there. The camp itself have been built on old Elephant migration routes and it is not unfamiliar for elephant to walk right through camp! camp is situated on the northern boundry of Kruger National Park and most hunting is conducted along the limpopo river

The hunting is conducted by Paul Phelan and local Ph Ishmael Shabalala who between the two of them have over 30 years of hunting experience, both are fully licensed and qualified with the relevant Authorities.

All pricing excludes:
• Local and international airfare
• Charter flights $ 6000 USD return from Johannesburg (2 and a half hours of flight)
• Transportation to camp from Johannesburg($500 USD per person one way, $1000 USD - 3 pax, 10 hours driving)
• 2% Govt levy on the total cost of the hunt. day rates and trophy fees
• $100 USD for cites tags
• Dip and Pack of trophies: 2 species or less = $600 USD
• Additional liquor or special liquor
• Tips for Professional Hunters and camp staff
• Medical evacuation insurance, or similar insurances
• Cites tag $100 USD each

Pricing Includes the following:
• trophy fee of said animal
• Field preparation of trophies
• All meals, accommodation, malt & wine, soft drinks during the hunt
• Daily laundry during the hunt
• Use of 4 x 4 vehicle
• Use of camp facilities
• Use of trackers, skinners, chef, and the use of the services of a Professional Hunter
• Exclusivity of camp, you will not share camp with any other hunters, etc























Please note that these cats are wild, and are not "canned" you are free to draw blood samples to determine if there is any drugs present in the lion.

Also only a mature lion will be hunted!

Additional Species that can be hunted while on the hunt (Hippo and croc only available till May)

Baboon $100 USD Crocodile $3000 USD
Buffalo Bull $3500 USD Hippo $3000 USD
Civet $500 USD Klipspringer $550 USD
Porcupine $150 USD
Steenbok $400 USD
Bushbuck $800 USD
Grysbok $300 USD Caracal $500 USD
Jackal $250 USD Duiker $250 USD
Genet $200 USD
Nyala $3500 USD Hyena $1000 USD
Serval $1800 USD Kudu $1800 USD
Impala $450 USD
Bushpig $350 USD


Please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any queries,

Regards

Aubrey Kent
Pelandaba Safaris
www.pelandabasafaris.com
+ 27 82 695 5327

Maybe you can explain something to me about this hunt, why does the day rate vary with whether or not you shoot the lion? Aren't the cost and risks the same whether or not a lion is shot?

I've never hunted lion so is this normal?

Would this be a drugged--formally caged lion hunt, or the real wild deal?

The reason I ask is there are a few recent posts that lion shot in SA are all canned. In addition, other places drug and import the pet lions.

please advise.

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Originally posted by daleW:
Would this be a drugged--formally caged lion hunt, or the real wild deal?

The reason I ask is there are a few recent posts that lion shot in SA are all canned. In addition, other places drug and import the pet lions.

please advise.

He did post this:

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Please note that these cats are wild, and are not "canned" you are free to draw blood samples to determine if there is any drugs present in the lion.

Look at the first few pictures - LANDROVERS and not LANDCRUSERS !!!!!! Now, I know what I'd rather trust......

This area is known for its lion that come across from Kruger.

Dale,

Actually buddy, this hunt is in Zimbabwe not South Africa. There's no doubt Lions do get transferred across the border and introduced as ringers but nothing like the numbers in SA. Also, that won't happen with Aubrey running things and he even says you're free to take blood samples if you want, so that sounds like a pretty good guarantee to me.

There's also the situation of habituation to vehicles and people to consider but if you check a map, you'll see that the vast majority of roads in the KNP are towards the west side of the reserve running mostly north to east and that the eastern side of the park has very little roads or traffic and therefore the animals on that side will be the least habituated.

It strikes me as a bloody good offer.

Neil,

Nothing wrong with a Landie mate.... they're the vehicle that tamed and civilised Africa........... between breakdowns!

Hi all

Hey Neill, man just when I thought you were a standup chap, you have too bust the Landies !!!!!

And Steve, you as well ,

Nothing wrong with them as long as you a decent toolbox and lots of spares

Oh and for those wondering out there

I have both, Land Rovers, Land Cruisers, and even Hi Luxes,

And each one is good for the jobs I use it for

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Originally posted by Fjold:
Maybe you can explain something to me about this hunt, why does the day rate vary with whether or not you shoot the lion? Aren't the cost and risks the same whether or not a lion is shot?

I've never hunted lion so is this normal?

Frank,

Put it this way, there are people out there who would sell you a lion hunt when there is more chance of me falling pregnant than you even seeing one, so the difference in day rates is an incentive and call it a gaurentee to us both.

I have already sold a lion at $2000 USD per day

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Originally posted by Neil-PH:
Look at the first few pictures - LANDROVERS and not LANDCRUSERS !!!!!! Now, I know what I'd rather trust......

there is a saying that is used in my family for a comment like your " GAAN KAK IN DIE MIELIES"



And as for you Steve and Walter , i just bought my 4th Landrover..... ha ha ha, so i better start stocking up on spares..... but that being said i change air filters and oil every 5 000 km and have yet to pick up any problems

funny enough, the 130 is kitted out with extra springs in the suspension, man in motors on a dirt road, only thing is that you end up going faster than you should and blow outs become a problem at 110km per hr on a dirt road.

Walter we also have a hi-lux that has been used and abused, it has only done 170 000km's but the hardest km's ever seen

Joking aside, I like the Landies. I reckon they're more comfortable than a Toyota and also more capable than a Toyota.... although not by much.

I reckon the biggest advantage of the Toyota is they're easier to access the service items. Which is why some people don't service their Landies as often as they should and why they consequently seem to break down more. Service 'em right and they go forever.

Can't stand the Discovery though!!!!!

do the new landies still have coil springs??

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Originally posted by .458Aubs:

quote:

Originally posted by Fjold:
Maybe you can explain something to me about this hunt, why does the day rate vary with whether or not you shoot the lion? Aren't the cost and risks the same whether or not a lion is shot?

I've never hunted lion so is this normal?

Frank,

Put it this way, there are people out there who would sell you a lion hunt when there is more chance of me falling pregnant than you even seeing one, so the difference in day rates is an incentive and call it a gaurentee to us both.

I have already sold a lion at $2000 USD per day

Thanks, I can understand that.

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Originally posted by butchloc:
do the new landies still have coil springs??

yup at 3500 kg i think it is the only effective system.


Steve - i hate Discover's!!!!!!


FYI - did you know that land rover DEFENDER drivers wave at each other.... lol..... its a brotherhood / cream of the crop thing

Yup, the Landie crowd are a good bunch huh!

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Originally posted by shakari:
Yup, the Landie crowd are a good bunch huh!

especially when the landys go through tyres at the rate that they do!!!! i've just bought 5 new tyres and then descovered that i need to buy 3 for the other landrover!!!!!!!!!

That's one of the problems with permanent 4x4 huh?

My old 1980 Jeep Wagoneer is the same way..... so much so that I rather think I'll buy the 1968 Ford I Beam that's for sale just down the road to save tyre wear on the Jeep.

At least, that's the line I'm feeding the Mrs!!

Hi Guys

Though i will settle this argument over the tyre wear the problem is you guys drive too much spares around.

Get a toyota and safe on spares and tyrewear.

Aubrey give me a call if you can.

That is a very fair offer for those interested in a good lion.

BTW, I do a similar thing with the daily rate- keep that low and simply push up the 'trophy fee' if the client shoots one. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you fill out the paper work as $2000 per day for 21 days and 8k trophy fee, or $1000 a day for ten days and 40k trophy fee...IF you shoot a lion. If you don't shoot a lion...then option 2 looks darn reasonable!

NOW, onto the jokes....

What is the difference between a landrover and a sheep?...You feel less embaressed when your mates catch you getting out of a sheep.

How do you get oil out of a rock?...Write 'Landrover' on it.

How do you get stuck in the bush?...drive a cruiser

I cant guarantee the landies but at least i know the tyres are good.They better be i supplied them

If there is no oil leaks under the landy be very aware because there no oil in your engine anymore.

aub sorry for hijacking the thread maybe we must iscuss a end of a year safri to make up for this.

Luan

I acknowledge the truth of "Landrover: The best 4X4 by far!" It is also hopelessly to small for me to fit into with any degree of comfort!

In past years I used to really criss-cross the Kalahari in Botswana: I visited Mabuasehube many, many times and also Khutse, Central Kalahari, Makgadikgadi, Moremi and the Okavango proper and again and again Okavango on a regular basis. A saying by our crowd goes something like this: A Landrover (Nissan or other 4X4) is a very nice vehicle to go to the Kalahari with! But, if you want to go back home after your visit, better go in a Land Cruiser!

In good hunting.

Andrew McLaren

Hi Guys,

Lion not available anymore. tx

And to all you anti-landrover freaks - "gaan kak in die mielies"

Thanks Aubrey, I'm going to take my cruiser specialy for you to the mielies tonight to take a dump! At least I know I will not get stuck........

Charl,

Mind you don't get jacked..... I've no idea if it's true or not but my buddy who's head of the traffic dept reckons the Landcruiser is the most hijacked vehicle in SA (pro rata).

At least no-ne's gonna jack a Landy because they know it'll probably break down before they get across the border..... and if it doesn't, they know it can be tracked by the oil drips!



OK, OK guys. I was joking, I REALLY do like the Landies really!.

And if you think a Landy leaks oil, you should see my old Wagoneer which is twice as bad!

Well yes...when I park in Harare, I leave the window's open on my landie and the keys in the ignition...the street kids throw money in to help me out Seriously, I never lock the landie or take the keys out...if you tried that with a cruiser it would be in Mozambique before you had finished shopping

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
...the street kids throw money in to help me out

Shyt it is like supporting the sharks!!!! you guys are a pain in the gat..... ha ha ha

At least i save on insurance and when i think - argggghhhh did i lock my car, i dont have to worry i just leave it like that.... lol

if you think my landy leaks oil, check your jocks.....

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