Trophy / Management hunt combination Package:

7 days, 6 nights, for:

Each time a hunter shoots a big trophy animals specie from the trophy list, he/she would earn the right to take TWO cull / management animal at NO CHARGE EXTRA.

Big Trophy List:

• Eland @ US 2 400
• Gemsbuck @ US 1 450
• Giraffe @US 3 200
• Nyala @ US 2 800
• Red Hartebeest @ US 1 100
• Waterbuck @ US 2 200
• Blue Wildebeest @US 1 300
• Black Wildebeest @US 1 300
• Zebra @US 1 300
• Kudu @US 2 400

Cull List: (female / young males)

• Impala
• Blesbuck
• Springbuck
• Warthog

Day Rate:

• US260 (1x1) & (2X1)
US160 (Observer)


Area: North West and/or boundary of Limpopo Provinces
Ranch size: 500ha - 1400ha
High Fenced: Yes
PH: Myself
PH no: 2012/08 & CPM-302-00106
Outfitter:Myself
Outfitter no: 2012/019

Included:

• Airport transfer - pickup and return to local airport
• Ground transportation,
• Lodging, meals and drinks (Soft drinks, bottled water, local table wine and beer),
• Laundry (Except Sundays),
• Transportation of trophies to the taxidermy,
• Hunting licences,
• Skinning / salting of trophies,
• Services of tracker / skinner and licensed Professional Hunter,
• Government tax, 14% VAT.

Not included:

• Airfare,
• Dip & Pack,
• Shipment of trophies,
• Taxidermy costs,
• Gratuity (Clients own discretion),
• Air charters,
• Hotel accommodation before and after the safari, items of a personal nature,

Aren't you the outfit this guy was referring to? If so, and you wouldn't refund a guy's deposit, a guy who has terminal cancer, then you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Maybe we need to add a "Don't book a hunt with bushwack" disclaimer as some here did with BlairWorldwide.

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good point raider!!

lets see his prompt response

I would like to hear the response as well.

Yes, i am the same outfit. I don't even want to respond to your "high jacking thread remarks", but yes the world needs people like you to judge and trial...

Please take your replies; negative / positive to the correct division of this forum...

JGRaider, don't think for others sir. That is why contract's are there for; to keep me legally out of the shit on clients like you...please don't book with me, it is probably going to be unpleasant for you.


I comply to all the rules of this forum and community to advertise in this section.

Real client sensitivity...good luck on your business buddy!!!

You're a class act Bushwack. You'll need lotsa luck booking anything via this site after being exposed for the POS you are. You and Blair Worldwide are two peas in a pod. You going to be at Dallas SCI? I'll be there so you can tell me face to face how unpleasant it would be. Deal?

I won't be at dallas but I will be in reno expecting to book a future hunt. I will look forward to meeting you there if your Froggy

"That is why contract's are there for; to keep me legally out of the shit on clients like you...please don't book with me, it is probably going to be unpleasant for you"

I am sure you are doing your business a lot of good. You should consider hiring a public relations rep.

Bushwack:
In your initial post, you mentioned you are the PH and the outfitter. Since you replied to those who take issue with your policy, please do tell us all why you made the choice not to refund in such a serious circumstance. I understand a contract is a contract but as both the outfitter and the PH you can make the decision. I will with hold judgement until I (and the rest of us here) read an honest and detailed explanation.

If your explanation does not come, or you offer an attack, that will state volumes. I hope you reply here.
Cal

quote:

Originally posted by Bushwack:
That is why contract's are there for; to keep me legally out of the shit on clients like you...

A timely link for you...
In Touch

Well done ForrestB, well done sir.

Bushwack, if you had any interest at all in helping Carolinasman recoup his deposit, why would you offer a competing hunt package on this same forum? Why not sweeten the pot on Carolinasman's hunt with the cull animal offer? Why not support his efforts to re-sell his hunt after you told him to come here and make his post while he's undergoing chemo?

Bush-league is a more appropriate name for your operation.

quote:

Originally posted by cal pappas:
Bushwack:
In your initial post, you mentioned you are the PH and the outfitter. Since you replied to those who take issue with your policy, please do tell us all why you made the choice not to refund in such a serious circumstance. I understand a contract is a contract but as both the outfitter and the PH you can make the decision. I will with hold judgement until I (and the rest of us here) read an honest and detailed explanation.

If your explanation does not come, or you offer an attack, that will state volumes. I hope you reply here.
Cal

Cal,

I have other PH's working for me permanent and freelance. If the hunt gets booked a PH / myself will be assigned to a hunter.

2ndly, the cancellation was forward to me only a few days before the actual hunt would have occur, now come on!, who is going to take the lost in funds that has been done. If i reimburse each and every client that have problems i would go bankrupt.

I however did offer two options to help Carolinasman in his ordeal 1. Substitute the hunt with someone else or 2. Forward the safari for the 2013 season, but he didn't chooce any of the options, he wanted the whole deposit back, not partially, no, the whole deposit, now that i think is unfair to me also.

Not all hunts gets hunted of my ranch, but on concessions which i have the hunting rights to do so. I have contracts with these concession owners / farmers and have to pay them for lost in funds when i don't pitch or cancel a safari; they also runs a business...

3rdly besides the concession, there was fees involved for caterers with prepared meals, beverges procured, all done. I don't use my own chef on other concession, the concession owners use there own, all have to be paid...The PH (A freelance PH) travelling cost (had to be paid) from his last hunt to his new one which would have been carolinasman's. I have a contract with them also...

I probably don't have all the answer for all of the community member of this forum. I don't have to go public with all, but i was already judged and trialed on empaty and humanity, why? because i had a contract indicating to the client all the pro's, con's, suggestions, liabilities, insurances to be taken out in a case like this. You only heard one side of the story, i am not a 'new one' in this industry, i have 18 years of respectable experience in it! Wright about me what you like to, you already have judge the person and not the situation, and this was business...



And to Mr. 'Forrest Gump' out there! and who attacks ..................................shit............................................no.................words..............for.................you............buddy...............


AND YES, I STILL COMPLY TO THE RULES OF ADVERTIZING ON THIS FORUM...

quote:

Originally posted by Bushwack:



2ndly, the cancellation was forward to me only a few days before the actual hunt would have occur, now come on!, who is going to take the lost in funds that has been done. If i reimburse each and every client that have problems i would go bankrupt.

I however did offer two options to help Carolinasman in his ordeal 1. Substitute the hunt with someone else or 2. Forward the safari for the 2013 season, but he didn't chooce any of the options, he wanted the whole deposit back, not partially, no, the whole deposit, now that i think is unfair to me also.

Not all hunts gets hunted of my ranch, but on concessions which i have the hunting rights to do so. I have contracts with these concession owners / farmers and have to pay them for lost in funds when i don't pitch or cancel a safari; they also runs a business...

3rdly besides the concession, there was fees involved for caterers with prepared meals, beverges procured, all done. I don't use my own chef on other concession, the concession owners use there own, all have to be paid...The PH (A freelance PH) travelling cost (had to be paid) from his last hunt to his new one which would have been carolinasman's. I have a contract with them also...

I probably don't have all the answer for all of the community member of this forum. I don't have to go public with all, but i was already judged and trialed on empaty and humanity, why? because i had a contract indicating to the client all the pro's, con's, suggestions, liabilities, insurances to be taken out in a case like this. You only heard one side of the story, i am not a 'new one' in this industry, i have 18 years of respectable experience in it! Wright about me what you like to, you already have judge the person and not the situation, and this was business...

BushLeague Safaris, I'll tell you "who is going to take the lost in funds.....". First of all it's not going to be Carolina. Many good, decent people on this forum are "taking the loss" on his behalf because it's the decent thing to do, it's the right thing to do, and we are honored to do it on his behalf. I do have a sneaking suspicion it will be you in the long run, because what goes around comes around, and your love of money and disregard for honorable acts will come back around to bite you in the butt. It will serve you right too as far as I'm concerned.

As for the rest of your excuses of offering other hunts, etc........I'm going to type slowly so your stupidazz can understand. The man has terminal cancer, he may never hunt anything again, especially Africa. I would imagine his thoughts are on surviving, not BushLeague Safaris.

Are you going to the Dallas SCI convention?

Gents:
First, thank you Bushwack for you explanation. While I strongly disagree with you (I won't attack or be disrespectful) I think you would have been the better man and quietly made the refund and lost a few dollars from your pocket. I think the admiration received on this forum would have generated many additional hunts for you. Instead, your legal claim to the deposit will now do the opposite.

For the rest of you fellas, take a look at my post on Carolinasman's thread and note the generosity of a PH in SA who is willing to step up and take over where Bushwack left off and offer a hunt at no charge for daily rate and a few minor species. We on AR will offer some money to recover what was lost with Bushwack and that can be put toward fees for larger animals and, again, Ian B. has offered no daily rate. He will be remembered well on AR for this.

In closing, Bushwack has offered his explanation, let's put the negativity to rest, and all concentrate on Carolinasman's recovery and hunt.
Cheers, all, AR again has brought out the best in the hunting world.
Cheers, all,
Cal
PS. Better yet, here is the offer below:

Posted 05 December 2012 13:00
Hi Cal

I like your idea to buy the hunt for Carolinasman.
I would like to offer my services here as I think it is a worthy cause.
If you are interested then perhaps you could administer the funds etc and make this happen.
I would like to keep this going each year, so try and figure out a way to do it annually.

I have dates open in January and February if he wants to move on this now. If he has a wish list let me know what it is and we can switch things up to make it happen.

What I can offer is as follows.

7 Hunting Days in KZN

1) No day rate on the hunt
2) 2 days Bushpig over hounds at no charge
3) Caracal over hounds at no charge
4) Common Reedbuck trophy ram at no charge
5) Blesbuck Ram at no charge

If you can pull together about USD 3000
we can add the following at cost without day rate.

1) Nyala Bull
2) Impala Ram
3) Warthog
4) Bushbuck
5) 1 day of wing shooting

I will collect Carolinasman from Durban airport, he must just get there the rest is taken care of.

This is a suggested hunt programme and he can change things up while here and also adjust the safari to his health needs etc.

If you want to get the trophies mounted then we can get an estimate from a taxidermist that can handle all the formalities etc.

Let me know your thoughts and lets make this happen.
Also please feel free to make comments or advise etc.
I have ensured that all hunting destinations are within 90 minutes of easy driving from the best hospitals in the province so should the person take a turn for the worse he would be within easy reach of good medical.
I would like to suggest that the funds gathered buy him a global rescue membership too so we have access to air lift

Kind regards
Ian

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quote:

Originally posted by Bushleague:
Wright about me what you like to, you already have judge the person and not the situation, and this was business...

The problem remains that this was "just business" for you...you kept the client's deposit just because you thought you could get away with it. That doesn't make it the right thing to do.

The deposit was in excess of the daily rate for the entire safari. Carolinasman did in fact ask you to keep whatever amount you had already spent on his safari and you refused. You wanted all the money and you got all the money. You also will live with the ramifications of your decision.

Just like yesterday, today's devotional seems to be custom tailored for you...

In Touch Devotional

Eleven men have already stepped-up and taken care of Carolinasman's lost deposit. More are willing to help him realize his safari dream when he's back on his feet.

Someone else, far bigger than all of us, is offering you a gift much more valuable than money. All you have to do is open your heart and your mind and accept the gift. It can start with the In Touch Daily Devotionals in the links. Someone seems to be trying to talk to you.

bush-whack . . . to defeat . . . in an underhanded way.

Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary (2003)

Looks like Bushwhack bushwhacked himself.

A man of character will take a loss with honor rather than dishonor himself. The captain of the Titanic, and many men on the ship, went down with the ship so there was room in the lifeboats for the women and kids. Remember the cruise ship that turned on its side a year or more ago? About 30 died and the captain there covered his uniform and ran into a life boat ahead of many passengers. Bushwack is that captain. He had the legal right to the money as did Blair Worldwide. They have their reward.

I believe I am correct in this prophecy: if a member of Bushwack's family, say wife or daughter, is diagnosed with cancer and he asks the AR forums for assistance to direct him to the best medical care here in the US, I believe many of us here would offer what we could: doctors would give advise, AR members in the city he would visit would offer their homes to stay in to save hotel bills, and many of us would offer financial assistance with the air ticket. That is what men of honor do here. Like Liam Neesen portrayed in Rob Roy.
Just my ramblings.
Cheers, all.
Cal
PS. Ian B: I will be in Dallas to confirm a few hunts. If my SA hunt does not come to pass (as I am on a tight schedule to fit it with a Zim or Tanzania hunt and also a trip to Australia) I would like for you to send my your details and offerings as I would like to explore a hunt with you. I like doing business with honorable men. And, as not to disappoint, I will only hunt with my .600--a rather cumbersome boat anchor with two barrels!

I don't pretend to know all the circumstances here. However, at the risk of taking (what I know is) a completely unpopular stance here, isn't that what trip insurance is for?

Look, most outfitters will bend the rules a bit if there is a cancellation/postponment, etc. But once you sign the contract, the outfitter was counting on the full amount of revenue, not just the deposit. So he's out too, even if he doesn't refund your deposit. If he does, he's out doubly.

I very much sympathize with the hunter in this very unfortunate situation. But I don't think the criticism of the outfitter is fair. Also, while I hope I'm never in a similar situation, I might accept the offer to do it next year and beat the odds and make it, just to prove I'm the obstinate SOB everyone thinks I am.

Not meant to be critical of the hunter in any way and I wish him the best; I just don't think the criticism of the outfitter is fair. There was a contract; it says what it says.

May the AR faithful flame away anyway -- by my leave.

Cal, if that is a boat anchor then I will be sure to kit out a safari boat so you can use it.

I read your blog and have followed your 600 stories over the years. Nothing nicer than a good double, it just feels right... cant explain it but it does. Just spoke with a chap yesterday who says he has a 416 Rigby double, ever heard of one? I am going to drive up to Joburg to see if it is indeed what he says it is.

Once you have figured out your timetable for the year, give me a call. There may be something nice for you to point that anchor at.
Just so you know, it will be mandatory for you to shoot a boar with it at close quarters. I cant pass up a chance to see what the 600 does to a 120kg pig

Thanks
Ian

Actually, Ian, being based in reality I must be honest with you. The .600 on a pig will put a .620" hole clear through it and that's all. If hit in the guts he will run off and in the right place he will fall over dead. The big bores are great fun, no doubt, but the stories of broken shoulders, buffalo tumbled over end to end, etc., are just nonsense. I will email if I have an opening.
Cheers, and thanks,
Cal

"I however did offer two options to help Carolinasman in his ordeal 1. Substitute the hunt with someone else or 2. Forward the safari for the 2013 season, but he didn't chooce any of the options, he wanted the whole deposit back, not partially, no, the whole deposit, now that i think is unfair to me also. "

I have to chime in here now as this is not true. I offered to cover any and all expenses you incurred related to my hunt, and you damn well know it.

Bushwhack, you are true piece of work to resort to outright lies to try and save your now tainted reputation. Need i remind you, You are the marketing wizard that recommended I try and sell the hunt on this site............

Originally posted by TANGLEWOOD:
Great to here from you carolinasman
You are in thoughts and prayers all over the globe. Hang in there and get well soon!

Bushleague you are truly a piece of work. I am a research guru and in one sentence you went right into the trash pile of places to not recommend or research. Quit whining about this and that. You will get what you deserve in the end. You reputation is toast here and rightly so.

quote:

Originally posted by LittleJoe:
You reputation is toast here and rightly so.

Actually it'll follow him all over the `net and there will be links to these threads.

Bushwack,

You really screwed the pooch on this forum.

465H&H