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Ive got to let this one go. Wifes getting restlessSmilerSmiler
This is a free ranging nilgai hunt on the 165,000 acre kennedy ranch. (yes those kennedys) it includes one bull Nilgai and one boar hog. This ranch has plenty of animals on it. I was there in january and got my nilgai the first night and my boar hog the next am. If youve necer had nilgai its outstanding. You fly into Corpus Cristi and get picked up. Only non indeginius animals are allowed to be hunted but you will see some awesome whitetails. (original kennedys rule in her will)
Lodging is right next to the ranch and food is outstanding country cooking
I paid $2995 and would like to get $2000 or best offer.
Heres the website.
http://lomaschicasoutfitters.com/home
Please feel free to call Sam Ilse. His number is on the website. I have his permission to sell it.
Thanks so much. Fell free to ask any questions. Remember on offers, all i can do is say no.
Michael
 
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When does the hunt have to be taken?

Can you add extra animals?

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Great question. I forgot to add that i am booked the monday -wed the week after thanksgiving. I imagine he would let you di it anytime. It is a three day two night hunt. There are no other animals but indigenous animals, and they are not allowed to be hunted. Mrs Kennedys rules.
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Woodsie,
I believe the ranch you are referring to is the Kenedy ranch with one "n" on Hwy 77.
As in Miflin Kenedy who was capt. Richard King's(King Ranch fame) close friend.
I have a friend who has booking contacts for nilgai hunts there also.


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I did this hunt a couple of years ago. Sam is a good guy and this is a fun hunt.
 
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Ive got to let this one go. Wifes getting restlessSmilerSmiler
This is a free ranging nilgai hunt on the 165,000 acre kennedy ranch. (yes those kennedys) it includes one bull Nilgai and one boar hog. This ranch has plenty of animals on it. I was there in january and got my nilgai the first night and my boar hog the next am. If youve necer had nilgai its outstanding. You fly into Corpus Cristi and get picked up. Only non indeginius animals are allowed to be hunted but you will see some awesome whitetails. (original kennedys rule in her will)
Lodging is right next to the ranch and food is outstanding country cooking
I paid $2995 and would like to get $2000 or best offer.
Heres the website.
http://lomaschicasoutfitters.com/home
Please feel free to call Sam Ilse. His number is on the website. I have his permission to sell it.
Thanks so much. Fell free to ask any questions. Remember on offers, all i can do is say no.
Michael


I'm not sure what "those Kennedys" you're referring to, but the Mass. Kennedys have nothing whatsoever to do with the Texas Kenedy ranch. And, you are also mistaken about the ranch not allowing hunting of native game, in particular whitetail deer. They do.


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I'm not sure what "those Kennedys" you're referring to, but the Mass. Kennedys have nothing whatsoever to do with the Texas Kenedy ranch. And, you are also mistaken about the ranch not allowing hunting of native game, in particular whitetail deer. They do.


I am not sure which is run by who, but in reality the Kenedy was split some time back.
Part of it is supposedly run by the Catholic church and part by a foundation I was told. I believe the foundation is run by the Kenedy heirs (Mrs. Kenedy). This part of the ranch does not allow native game to be killed.
The other part of the ranch leases out to annual hunters for a small fortune.


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Originally posted by Gatogordo:


I'm not sure what "those Kennedys" you're referring to, but the Mass. Kennedys have nothing whatsoever to do with the Texas Kenedy ranch. And, you are also mistaken about the ranch not allowing hunting of native game, in particular whitetail deer. They do.


I am not sure which is run by who, but in reality the Kenedy was split some time back.
Part of it is supposedly run by the Catholic church and part by a foundation I was told. I believe the foundation is run by the Kenedy heirs (Mrs. Kenedy). This part of the ranch does not allow native game to be killed.
The other part of the ranch leases out to annual hunters for a small fortune.


Rae59:

I have talked with Sam Ilse and you are right except that the no hunting for native game is on the trust part with about 210,000 acres and the other part of the split is the foundation with about 235,000 which does allow native game hunting. It would be nice to have a lease next to the trust. Wink

about the foundation...........according to this, the Catholic church received outright a 1000 acres including the old ranch HQ. I suppose, but don't know in fact, that they don't allow hunting on that 1000 acres. The rest, something on the order of 235,000 acres, apparently went to the Foundation, set up by Sarita Kenedy, which is basically designed to support the Catholic Church, and, according to the Foundation's website (see above), all of it is hunted for whitetails, etc.


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Hunt is sold To Gaotorgo.
Everything that I posted is what I was told.I could have easilly missunderstood what he was saying. Wouldnt be the first time, I am not the smartest tool in the shed, but it was what I am told. The whitetails that we saw where we were hunting for niglai, have never been hunted. You could have easily walked up to it and hit them with your fist. Monster bucks though.
Again, this is what I was told.
THanks,
W.Smiler
 
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Hunt is sold To Gaotorgo.
Everything that I posted is what I was told.I could have easilly missunderstood what he was saying. Wouldnt be the first time, I am not the smartest tool in the shed, but it was what I am told. The whitetails that we saw where we were hunting for niglai, have never been hunted. You could have easily walked up to it and hit them with your fist. Monster bucks though.
Again, this is what I was told.
THanks,
W.Smiler


Woodsie:

You were told correctly, see above post which I have edited to Rae59.


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I stand corrected , Gato.
Nice read by the way.
It is strange that my friend who has the booking connection and also has hunted Nilgai there, tells the same story about not being able to hunt any native game on that particular lease.
He even claims to have seen a few BC book deer walking within 50 yards of vehicles and hunters showing very little fear which would lend credibility to what was said.
I should be seeing him in a few weeks and will ask again which division he hunted.
I do know of 2 people that yearly lease for whitetail, etc. on the Kenedy and I don't think they have any intention of giving up their leases.


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[URL= ]2011 Nilgai on Kenedy Ranch[/URL]


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Nice animal. Those pastures look like 2011.....dry and eaten down.....how far was the nilgai, looks like stalking would have been tough.


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Gatogordo,

Congratulations on your hunt.

Back in the 90s our company had the Telefon pasture leased on Kenedy Ranch. To the North of our lease the land was called the Holy Land and we were well warned not to cross the fence. we killed some great whitetail and many many nilgai on Telefon.

In 08 I hunted with Sam on the property we called the Holy Land.

To whet your appetite here is a picture of the one I killed with Sam. It was in the wide open but we were able to stalk it to within 100 yards using the sand dunes as cover. The last part was on our stomachs. I was pulling stickers out of me for a week. It was a great hunt.



I changed shirts and cleaned up before the picture was taken.
 
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Gato. Nice pick up. If you had not found it b/4 I did, you would not have gotten it. If you have never hunted the King/Kennedy, you are in for a real treat.
 
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The bull I posted a picture of above was spotted at 8:00am in the opening near the first set of Wind Generators. The opening is approx 700-800 yards in diameter. He was the dominant bull within a mixture of 6 other bulls and 20 cows. He was constantly working the other bulls & cows within the opening and the distances between us ranged from 400 to 800 yards with almost nothing to hide behind. I was told this ol boy would be tough to get up on because he was using the open territory and all the other Nilgai as a buffer zone. I made a conscience decision to hunt this bull as fair chase and let the cards fall as they may.

We walked around, up and over many sand dunes to slowly get to a vantage point that would offer the best angle of attack. During such time we were busted by other Nilgai, coyotes, deer and even rattlesnakes. Many times we stood completely still to allow other game to pass as we slowly made it to the last sand dune. My guide actually questioned our intent to stay on this bull when we could probably find an easier one to stalk...but I was determine to hunt this one and as I said; let the cards fall as they may. At that point we belly crawled 200 yards between dunes to stay low and out of all the Nilgai's vision.

Outwards in the pasture, a lone tree stood approx 250 yards from the edge of the nearest oak mott. The bull was still over 500 yards out but the day's heat was starting to creep up and I had a feeling he would eventually make his was by that tree and into the nearest mott to take cover and rest. Which still offered him a great vantage point to watch from. We made our last belly crawl to with 200 yards of the tree and set up a plan to catch him between the tree and the mott, a perfect shot alley from where we dug in to wait.

As we laid up in the dune, a group of 3 sow pigs and 7 piglets came up behind us and laid down in the shady sand no more than 30 yards behind us. It was quite a feeling to know we were doing a proper stalk. As luck would have it, the bull slowly started to make his way to the tree. It seemed like forever; the old boy was very cautious and actually did several back and forth moves that at times gave us the feeling; "this ain't gonna work".

Eventually, he did make his way to the tree and as I prepared to shoot him as he cleared the tree....he stopped and LAID DOWN!! Under the tree and behind some brush! Wow, all I could do was freeze and keep asking myself; "now what?, if we move, he'll bust us!".

30 minutes or so had gone by and I noticed a hole in the brush about the size of a dinner plate. And, if I could move about 10 feet to my left, I could possibly get a clear shot at his neck through the hole in the brush. This move would be into an open area away from our cover, but it was now or never. It took a very long time to move the 10 feet and I used the pig's attention or lack of alarm to keep my movement nonthreatening.

Sometimes we get lucky, and as I settled in for the shot, the wind slowed, the pigs never moved, the bull turned his head in the right direction and I squeezed the trigger. He never moved from under the tree (as seen in the photo), and my guide was overwhelmed with the excitement of this successful stalk. I promptly thanked the hunting gods and looked at my watch...... 12:05pm!!!! This single stalk on this great bull took a touch over 4 hours. A fitting end to a proper hunt!

On a side note. I was not scheduled for this hunt. A personal friend had booked this hunt but passed away prior to the hunt. I stood in for Rudy and sometimes..... the world is right!


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Is the nilgai hunt still available for 2012?

Thanks,

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Hunt is sold To Gaotorgo.(sic)


Not this one, but they might have more available for a bull 3 days, 2 nights at $2350 or a cow for $1700 (I believe, I am writing from memory and wasn't paying that much attention to the cow hunt cost). I don't know but I would suggest you call Sam Ilse and ask.


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Hey Gato when you planning on going?


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Mike:

The hunt is booked for right after Thanksgiving. Given that I am planning on letting my son do the actual hunting/shooting, that time frame will probably fit in with his university (conveniently located in Austin, Tx....guess which one Big Grin ) holiday schedule. Mr. Ilse was nice enough to allow me to change the dates as long as there is no conflict, but at this time, I am planning on keeping the original schedule.

The only real problem is that the scheduled time frame is right at the end of our local whitetail rut but, with a bit of luck, perhaps either Adam or I will get a trophy on my ranch prior to Thanksgiving.


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The bull I posted a picture of above was spotted at 8:00am in the opening near the first set of Wind Generators. The opening is approx 700-800 yards in diameter. He was the dominant bull within a mixture of 6 other bulls and 20 cows. He was constantly working the other bulls & cows within the opening and the distances between us ranged from 400 to 800 yards with almost nothing to hide behind. I was told this ol boy would be tough to get up on because he was using the open territory and all the other Nilgai as a buffer zone. I made a conscience decision to hunt this bull as fair chase and let the cards fall as they may.

We walked around, up and over many sand dunes to slowly get to a vantage point that would offer the best angle of attack. During such time we were busted by other Nilgai, coyotes, deer and even rattlesnakes. Many times we stood completely still to allow other game to pass as we slowly made it to the last sand dune. My guide actually questioned our intent to stay on this bull when we could probably find an easier one to stalk...but I was determine to hunt this one and as I said; let the cards fall as they may. At that point we belly crawled 200 yards between dunes to stay low and out of all the Nilgai's vision.

Outwards in the pasture, a lone tree stood approx 250 yards from the edge of the nearest oak mott. The bull was still over 500 yards out but the day's heat was starting to creep up and I had a feeling he would eventually make his was by that tree and into the nearest mott to take cover and rest. Which still offered him a great vantage point to watch from. We made our last belly crawl to with 200 yards of the tree and set up a plan to catch him between the tree and the mott, a perfect shot alley from where we dug in to wait.

As we laid up in the dune, a group of 3 sow pigs and 7 piglets came up behind us and laid down in the shady sand no more than 30 yards behind us. It was quite a feeling to know we were doing a proper stalk. As luck would have it, the bull slowly started to make his way to the tree. It seemed like forever; the old boy was very cautious and actually did several back and forth moves that at times gave us the feeling; "this ain't gonna work".

Eventually, he did make his way to the tree and as I prepared to shoot him as he cleared the tree....he stopped and LAID DOWN!! Under the tree and behind some brush! Wow, all I could do was freeze and keep asking myself; "now what?, if we move, he'll bust us!".

30 minutes or so had gone by and I noticed a hole in the brush about the size of a dinner plate. And, if I could move about 10 feet to my left, I could possibly get a clear shot at his neck through the hole in the brush. This move would be into an open area away from our cover, but it was now or never. It took a very long time to move the 10 feet and I used the pig's attention or lack of alarm to keep my movement nonthreatening.

Sometimes we get lucky, and as I settled in for the shot, the wind slowed, the pigs never moved, the bull turned his head in the right direction and I squeezed the trigger. He never moved from under the tree (as seen in the photo), and my guide was overwhelmed with the excitement of this successful stalk. I promptly thanked the hunting gods and looked at my watch...... 12:05pm!!!! This single stalk on this great bull took a touch over 4 hours. A fitting end to a proper hunt!

On a side note. I was not scheduled for this hunt. A personal friend had booked this hunt but passed away prior to the hunt. I stood in for Rudy and sometimes..... the world is right!


Great story, and a very nice result for your patience and effort. Congratulations.


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