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Gentlemen,
two clients decided to postpone their hunt so we have two Eland available. Openings would be in February or also some spots later in the season.
This is a great
deal for a real westafrican hunt that is super affordable and gives you the chance to track one of the most amazing trophies the world has to offer, the Giant Eland.

It is a communal zone (160000acres) south of Poli with full anti poaching 365year/year and a resident PH. The hunt is fully guided.



Eland 12 day hunt 1:1; incl. permits, transport etc. for 14800€

(1 License allows 2 animals of a-class, 4 of b-class)

Trophy fees:

A-Class

Eland 4200€

Buffalo 2600€

Roan 2600€

Lion 10000€

B-Class

Cob 500€

Reedbuck 500€

Hyena 800€

red flanked duiker 300€

grimms duiker 400€

Oribi 300€

Hartebeest 900€

red river hog 500€

warthog 500€



The area has also lion and elephant, if you are interested we could put focus on it.

reference from AR-mambers available.

Regards,

Dennis

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What country is this hunt in
 
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I'm guessing Cameroon.
 
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Yes, the country is Cameroon


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Yes it's in north Cameroon. South of Garoua.


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1 sold - 1 remains available


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1 hunt available in early march or mid April.



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What dreams are made of, great offer Dennis


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Did this hunt with Dennis earlier this year. Feel free to give me a shout to discuss. Vince
 
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Offering 10% on the base rate for last two weeks of march2017. I doubt you'll ever get a cheaper LD Eland hunt.
Will guide the hunt myself!


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Eland taken on this hunt




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Well done Dennis and Faisal must be chuffed with that.


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Gorgeous bull...


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Nice LD Bull Dennis. One of these is definitely on my bucket list !


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I contracted this hunt.
I have been hunting abroad many times, had good and not that good experiences, but sadly I must admit this was my worst hunting experience in my whole live, my advice for fellow hunters members of this forum, is not to book.
I have nothing good to say, except I did great excercise and lost around 4 kg. I am more fitted now, thank you.
Just wanted to warn others.

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Spanishhunter if you would have succeeded to take a eland would it been a great rewarding hunt maybe the toughest you made ?
 
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A.Dahlgren, to hunt is not only to be succesful in killing an animal.
This one was neither the hardest hunt I had, nor the first time I had not kill an animal while hunting.
Many things gone wrong and I am just trying to warn people if they want to listen.
Maybe is just the "new hunting age" we are now is not my type anymore.
This industry is sick, only worries for money or meat, not worry at all about ethics or client dreams and expectations. Thanks to this trip I have completely change my mind about hunting abroad and is no longer in my plans. But that is only my opinion and my advice to fellow HUNTERS here. Maybe the real problem is what we call hunt. If you came to my place I would have never act the way I was treated in this hunt. All my words were lost in the wind, and felt just I was there to finish soon and leave my money, thats all. I dont have many time nowadays to write here, but if someone is doubing in my words again or pretending I am writing this just because I did not get the eland, I will fully write down here all that hapenend in this safari

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Looks like Faisal has worked out.

Great job excellent results!
 
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I was thinking of doing this hunt myself. What where the pros and cons. I can role sith the punches in Africa but hate scams


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I hunted in the exact same area my elephant and I got it without problems. I saw a lot of game and easily could have added a buffalo. It is not an easy hunted but not it is not that tough. I gained weight. Faisal was there twice and even if things go wrong they always offer a solution.

So maybe you were not as experienced as you thought.
 
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Spanishhunter:
I am sorry to read about yours feeling and bad experience, but with those guys (Denise and Rein Hard) my experience is totaly different.

I hunted with Denise twice, in Romaina and in North Cameroun and found him a energatic, dedicated, focused and committed.

Whatever I agreed and was in agreement they honored, I shot 9 different animals ( 8 trophies and 1 for camp food) in 8 days ( it was 12 day safari for LDE and Roan) with every efforts they made it comfortable for me during these days and kept all care what I wanted and of my demand, I shot my dream trophy LDE and wounded him but Denise & his tracking team (I called them magicians specially Osmanove & Gaberela) tracked him down in 1 1/2 hour even where the big grasses were, they were reading like a drawings and found him for me to shoot again and I did.

I respect your decesions not to go again due to your experience but I beleive it would be un-ethical, indecent & ill-logical to stop all over the world just on basis on this 'YOU DONT LIKE THIS'.

If you have some compalin, this is your right to discuss on forum and try to get remidy or some solution but to run a campaign is not good.

In the end, I am sorry for any bad feeling for you over my writing but I wanted to write my feeling too for those guys, for me they are very good and committed and Denise specially is a 'hell of a boy
 
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Dear Alberto​,
I will type this on my satphone because I am in Benin at the moment and don't have connection to proper internet. I guided an AR member here, who will hopefully post a report about his successful hunt.

I am actually very surprised you never contacted me and tried to discuss with me about it. If you felt mistreated it would have been fairly easy to just send me a message.

Anyway, now that you decided to blame me in public, I unfortunately have to step in and spoil your story with some facts.

You booked this hunt via me based on the offer I made here. I gave you 10% on the base rate because you booked short notice. In addition I offered a rifle free of charge and I offered some bullets free of charge.
Unfortunately I couldn't be there in this hunt. However I never said I'll be there, just in case you blame me for that too.
The outfitter who has 20+ years of guiding experience in Cameroon was available to guide you.

You hunted with the outfitter and you shot 1 Cob de Buffon and 1 Reedbuck.
You wounded a nice eland bull on day 8 (i think) of the hunt. The trackers, outfitter and you followed the animal for 4 days. You had another chance and wounded him again.
So to make it clear, you shot at a nice eland bull two times without killing him. Unfortunately the animal was wounded enough ,besides the bad shooting, so it will probably after many days of suffering die. After 4 days the eland joined the herd again and it got very difficult to follow and even more to see the animal in the herd.
You then refused to hunt/follow anymore, blaming the outfitter, the team and (surprisingly) me for having a bad time. You then (after several days) decided that you didn't like the Cob and Reedbuck because they were not "record" trophies and you're not going to pay for them.

You left the camp without paying for the trophy fees of Kob and Reedbuck, the domestic flight in Cameroon we paid for you & the ammunition. You refused to give any tip to the team, because you blamed them for loosing the eland track after 4 days.

So I sold an LD Eland hunt in Cameroon at the exact conditions I posted here. 2 other AR members hunted the same area and both got nice eland (see the previous post of IH) and hopefully will proof you wrong or post their successful hunts.
You still owe me, respectively the outfitter the trophy fees and the domestic flight.

And NOW you are blaming us for a bad hunt? Give me a break....

The team followed the herd for a while where they could and it has left the concession. You had more then one chance but still blame everyone else.


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I understand your point, I have no bad feelings for you over your writing, maybe I should have wrote everything that happened in this hunt directly, but

I was taught not to say anything if you have nothing good to say, and neither I want to argue with anyone, just to warn HUNTERS in this forum. For me hunting is not shooting animals from the car, or 50 meters from the car, but I guess is not same definition for each person. Neither I sized a hunt for how many animals I get in how many days, but for the experience.

First of all, this young gentleman, Dennis, was selling a hunt in this forum, based on the advice of some other hunters on this forum, I contracted this hunt with him (who I thought was a PH and will be with me in the hunt he was selling).

Just when I paid a deposit of 18.000 euros, is when the first problems begin to show out. Maybe is a coincidence... but then Mr Dennis began to say he or "his partner" will be hunting with me (but I knew nothing about that partner when I contracted the hunt). Finally I did not even meet Mr Dennis at all, he left the camp to hunt with another hunter (maybe more profitable) in Benin. Same day I was arriving, He left the camp with me and another hunter ( a guess they say) and only one ph for both.

His partner, Mr Reinhard, was the really owner of the concession, and a full licensed and expertise PH (not like Mr Dennis that never told he was an apprentice, and not a full licensed PH, he got his license just this March)

Once in the camp, the "guess" who was a very kind and nice person to me, Doctor Joseph, was hunting alone with his own tracker while I was hunting with Reinhard and another group of trackers (I was suppoused to be the only one hunting). Some days, Mr Joseph came in the same car with us in a kind of 2x1 hunt instead of going alone without ph (He has his own rifle and was ready to shoot animals of his interest that show up and has no interest for me).

I had a list of animals of my special interest, but I clearly state to Mr Reinhard that I was a hunter and so I understand opportunity might show off anytime, so I was ready to take the chance on any animal which was a record class trophy. I clearly state I like to hunt, I am fitted and ready to walk, and I dont like to shoot animals from the car, unless is an opportunity we cant pass on, as is a record class animal.

The only animal which was fundamental to me and the reason I was on that hunt was the LDE, and the rest I have no special interest in any of them.
It seems all that words was taken by wind.

It took us 6 days of walking to get a chance on a LDE (I know some fellow hunters on this forum just found it near the car, it was not my case, as we walked around 6 hours a day for it)

First day I get in the camp I was kindly and free given a 416 RM from Reinhard to do my hunt. I tested the rifle and was zeroed around 100 meters which I think it was good enought (I didnt know the distances I have to shoot the Eland, but I was told it was working good like that for other hunters)

My first shot (from the car) was for a Buffon Kob, Reinhard told me to shoot so I thought it was a record class we cant pass on. After the shot he said "I am sorry I thought it was bigger" happily for the camp the Kob was shot in time to refill the meat supply, maybe coincidence again. I did not get angry and tried to forget this, so we continue the hunt.

The day before I shot my LDE (which I wanted to be a big one if possible) a problem occurs.
Reinhard favorite car (car without doors or glass) that needs to push to beging working, was needing the push to begin. I left the 416 on the front seat and go back to help the one tracker who was pushing car, the car began working without problem, but Reinhard took a strong movement to the left without noticing the rifle was on front seat in a car without doors, so the rifle went to the ground. We agreed new test was required and we went to the target at 78 meters were he took a shot. The shot was 3 inches low so he take the scope and just correct 1/2 inch I inmediately say I though that was not enought to correct the full deviation, but he said "dont worry, its enough as LDE is a very big animal" because I didnt know the distances we are going to shoot (I didnt know the animal, neither the area) I trust my PH.

Next day we finally had a chance at a LDE.
I shot the one he told me and the animal was wounded, I didnt know the distance I was shooting at (the scope was new for me and I didnt know the exact real size of the animal to have a guess of the distance before shooting) so I aimed to the shoulder while he was turning around. I am always confident of my shooting as I was former special forces.

After shooting (not before) I was told the shot was around 160 meters, so taking into account the rifle was zeroed at around 50 meters, you can imagine how much it can go down in this caliber. Of course the shot was probably low, but also was clear to me lungs or stomach was implicated on the shot, from the sound of the impact I heard.
Before the shot, I was told that LDE is a weak animal, not my LDE, we track him down 2 days till we found him again, I was told to shoot inmediately if I see him, so I did, and I hit him again, as soon as tracker pointed the animal I aimed and shot, this time I was told (after the shot) the animal was 250 meters away!!!

Now he had 2 holes of 416 and he was still walking from us, no doubt he was terrified and wounded.
2 days after this second shot we finally see he has entered an area surrounded by roads and he did not leave it, meaning he was dead or really injured. Next morning we went to the area to search for it, Mr Joseph came with us as he was invited to came from Reinhard who asked my permission saying, "He will came with us and he will only shoot in the rare case he see the wounded eland and we are not there" I agree, but things worked out in a quite different way.

While beginning the tracking a Reedbuck appear eating in front of us, soon Reinhard called the doctor and told him to shoot, I couldnt believe my eyes, Doctors shot and he missed, the animal was not moving so he was told to shoot again and animal was finally killed. He remains there and we continue tracking the Eland which (after we learned) was very close to the point in wich the reedbuck was shot.
While tracking the animal down, Reinhard began to put fire on the grass, some of this fires even disturb the trackers on their work.
We finally get to the point where the Eland has been laying for almost one day, and you know what?? The animal has just run from there a few minutes before we got to him, why? trackers say because of puting the fire, I said because of the stupid reedbuck shooting, one way of another, my LDE was running again from us because my PH did a big mistake.

We tracked him down for a few hours, but trackers finally loose the track. Very nice isnt it???
Not forgetting to say, previous to this day, I was told to shoot one more animal from the car, redbuck, and again after the shot, my PH said is not a record class but is "a good one" then I was really upset.
The LDE in the last 3 days of the hunt was never found. I was really upset already by that time and the offer I got from Reinhard got me more upset already, his offer was this:

We can continue the hunt for the LDE, checking the group in which my eland was before the shooting as he might be back to them, but, he will never say which one is the wounded one, I will be the one talking responsibilty of this second eland, if its wounded one, its ok, if its a new one, I will need to pay again full trophy fee and a bit more for license compensation.

Of course I declined and stated is his responsibilty to find the wounded eland, as that is part of his work, and that I will not make a single shot more to any animal, in fact, I stayed in camp while he went to look for the eland (that was I thougt) but he even used that time to do antipoaching issues shooting cattle in the border of the concession instead of being whole day looking for my eland in all ways possible.
At the end of the hunt I said I will not pay a single penny for the Kob and the reedbuck as was his responsibility to tell me to shoot for animals who were not was I was looking for, and clearly stated, and I was not there for car shooting, neither for meat shooting. I told him he can keep those "good trophies" for himself, I dont want it, for me it was a shame.

At the end, I have to pay for the daily rates and full eland fee and he kept another 400-500€ because I had already send a deposit of 18.000€ prior to the hunt, so some how I ended paying a part of those Kob and reedbuck.
Hope you can better understand now what happened to me, now you are free to think and do whatever you want.

Best regards and luck for all of you.
 
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Now I add mister Dennis, or Denny boy as Reinard call you, YOU ARE A LIER.
I payd my flights to Mr Reinhard if you had been there I would have paid it to you, but because you were nor there I payd to Mr Reinard, clear it up with him before posting bullshit about me and inventing that and other things you have just wrote about when you were not there.
About telling things to you insted of posting here:

- First its me who decide what to do and how sir
- Second, all was already discussed with the owner of the concession and infront of a witness, why should I talk anything else with an apprentice If I already talked with the PH and concessions ower?

I will not permit you telling bullshit against me after all I have been trought already... THATS THE LAST DROP OF THE GLASS
 
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Alberto,
Yes, I talked with both the outfitter and Dr. Josef who was with you in camp. Their story differs VERY much from yours. However I don't believe in washing dirty laundry in public and I will not discuss all the things you've said and done in public.

A few closing remarks from my side:
- Yes Reinhard calls me denny boy :-) we are very close and in fact, we are family. I am a licensed Guide in Cameroon (and Benin). Reinhard is the boss in Cameroon. I never said something different, so what is your point here?!

- The outfitter says he never asked you to shoot from the car. I wasn't there, so I don't know. But I have to ask if you don't want to shoot from the car, why did you do it?

- the outfitter is not difficult to speak to and I have no idea why you didn't just talk to him during the hunt.
It was ONLY after you wounded and lost your Eland that you started getting angry with everyone and insulting people.

- I never said I would be guiding you! I get paid to guide by the outfitter and the outfitter decides which hunter I guide. I told you from the beginning I am a booking agent and guide. Obviously I can't guide all hunts.
The hunt in Benin started only after your hunt was finished, so I didn't leave you alone because of that.

- The outfitter was willing to offer you some additional days to stay in camp and search the eland free of charge but you refused.

To sum it up:
I sold you the eland hunt and you got what was offered.
You wounded your Eland (5 witnesses) and besides having another chance to take a shot you couldn't kill him.
You left camp without paying the amount you owe.

Everything from my side has been said. I will close it here.

Regards,

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I have spoke to Reinhard during hunt and I told him everything as I already stated in my post before.
You are a LIER, and sooner or later live will put you in your place, I dont make my money from this, I have been in this forum from years and have never say a bad word about any PH or outfitter till now, I am not getting money from writing all this here, in fact I am just getting problem and wasting my time with a person like you, who doest deserve my time to be wasted on him. I just wanted to warn others if it helps, no other intention.
Its you the one who wants to earn money from this business and to do so, you have no problem in lie.
All happened as I already stated, I didnt left the camp with a debt, I owe nothing to no one, I paid for my tickets, I paid in full for my Eland trophy fee and daily rates, and I paid 400-500 euros more than all that.
Mr Reinhard agreed on that payment and we both agree is no more money to ask from me.
I have never insulted anybody and so, I am not insulting you now when I say you are a LIER, because you are.
Good luck in live.
 
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Great looking bulls ! Congrats Dennis and team! Bucket list stuff !

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First time I hunted in South Africa, they started laughing at me for jumping out of the truck to shoot.

Once I found that it was normal to shoot from the truck, I never bothered jumping out any more.

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Hi Saeed
About shooting from car I understand what you said. I also know you have hunted elephant and buff many times tracking down, right? For me using the very little spare time I have to travel the world to shoot some animal from or around a car, is not enjoyable, thats not hunting for me. I can understand a 100 pounder can show out any time (including when you are in the car) and that kind of cases I will be stupid or will show to know nothing about hunt if I say "I will not shoot from car" for me only that kind of cases is when I can make an exception, otherwise I like to hunt really working for it.
But thats only my opinion, and opinion you know everybody have one... About rome and romans I agree with you and thats how I ended getting into my final decission, dont travel abroad for this kind of guided hunting anymore, I prefer to stay home hunting my lands here in the way I enjoy.
It doesnt mean I dont understand other points of view and I dont judge them, I justed wanted to warn about the experience I had, in case here is some other strange bug like me.

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There is no way in hell I am going to shoot either an elephant or a buffalo from the back of a truck.

I only shot plains game animals from the truck, hunting on farms.

If you did not wish to shoot from the truck, then why did you do so??


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Saeed, I already explained twice, once now just for you and another before in previous post.
I said, for me is not fair hunt to shoot from car either if its elephant or plainsgame, no difference, but as I tried to explain, I understand animals are free and you might get an opportunity to shoot a record trophy from car, that kind of opportunity shows when it came, not when you want. Only in that cases I understand shooting from the car is a possiblity, no matter if its an elephant or a duiker, for me its makes no difference. Maybe you dont understand my point in taking an extraordinary oportunity when it cames, for me its no problem in understand your ethics making differences between elephant and other animals, I understand and respect that, I dont know if you respect my ethics, but at least I thought I was able to explain my point of view, now I think maybe the problem is I cant explain myself properly and maybe that was also my mistake in this hunt when I explained my ethics to PH and told him I will only shoot from car (or near car) if a record tipe animal shows up, otherwise I dont want that option because is kind of disrespect for the animal and then to myself (just my point of view).
As I said, I proof myself to be a rare bug, so I will keep away from now on of this kind of hunts.
I apologize for not being able to explain my stupid ethics and for all the problems it might have create to everybody, it wont happen again.

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