Discussions about technicalities belong somewhere else. Discussiona about references, prices, hunt details. Now we're talking. As for the name calling and vulgar behavior....grow up people!
Brett
DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF
Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson
22 September 2011, 00:58
Brian Clark
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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer: Discussions about technicalities belong somewhere else. Discussiona about references, prices, hunt details. Now we're talking. As for the name calling and vulgar behavior....grow up people!
Here here!!! About time! We're on page 3 now of a thread offering a "hunt", and everyone feels obliged to get on their soapbox and profess that THEY would not be interested in such a hunt. That's fine...then move on. There must be a market for such hunts, as witnessed by all the game ranches in Texas, South Africa, Namibia, Michigan, New Zealand, etc.
25 September 2011, 19:38
tractorred
This reminds me of some of the arguements with the wife. Lot of talking and everything stays the same.
25 September 2011, 23:49
drummondlindsey
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Originally posted by tractorred: This reminds me of some of the arguements with the wife. Lot of talking and everything stays the same.
26 September 2011, 00:55
reelman1
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Posted 22 September 2011 03:23 Hide Post Here here!!! About time! We're on page 3 now of a thread offering a "hunt", and everyone feels obliged to get on their soapbox and profess that THEY would not be interested in such a hunt. That's fine...then move on. There must be a market for such hunts, as witnessed by all the game ranches in Texas, South Africa, Namibia, Michigan, New Zealand, etc.
I think most of us do not object to them offering a shoot like this, it's the fact that he mis-represented it by saying you could shoot a B&C buck which we all know you can't do behind a fence.
26 September 2011, 01:09
Cross L
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Originally posted by reelman1:
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Posted 22 September 2011 03:23 Hide Post Here here!!! About time! We're on page 3 now of a thread offering a "hunt", and everyone feels obliged to get on their soapbox and profess that THEY would not be interested in such a hunt. That's fine...then move on. There must be a market for such hunts, as witnessed by all the game ranches in Texas, South Africa, Namibia, Michigan, New Zealand, etc.
I think most of us do not object to them offering a shoot like this, it's the fact that he mis-represented it by saying you could shoot a B&C buck which we all know you can't do behind a fence.
SSR
26 September 2011, 03:41
lde
26 September 2011, 16:43
muttleysgone
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I think most of us do not object to them offering a shoot like this, it's the fact that he mis-represented it by saying you could shoot a B&C buck which we all know you can't do behind a fence
He most certainly did not say you could shoot a buck that could be entered in the Boone and Crockett listings. He said, and here is the exact quote: "Guaranteed 180BC or better buck for only $6,500." He did not say you could enter the buck in the Boone and Crockett listings, therefore there is absolutely no misrepresentation in the original post. Had he said that you could, you might have a point, but he did not so you don't.
I hope that you aren't trying to say that no whitetail that would measure 180 inches under the B&C system could possibly exist behind a fence.
There must be some sort of twilight zone on this message board where people read things into posts according to their personal biases. I could care less whether you think such a hunt is ethical. If you don't, don't go, but don't tell me I can't use the Boone and Crockett scoring method, or any other method I choose to use, to score any head of any North American animal I choose to score. I can, and no matter what your thoughts are on the ethics of how I hunted the animal, you can't stop me from doing so. If I shoot a whitetail buck on some fenced preserve and decide to use that method to score it, that would be perfectly legal to do. It would decidedly not be legal or ethical for me to enter it in the B&C record book, nor would I want to, but if I want to say that the head scores 180 under the B&C system, that would not be either illegal or unethical.
Most of my money I spent on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted
26 September 2011, 17:48
Crazyhorseconsulting
And the Beat Down goes on.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
26 September 2011, 19:17
reelman
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He most certainly did not say you could shoot a buck that could be entered in the Boone and Crockett listings. He said, and here is the exact quote: "Guaranteed 180BC or better buck for only $6,500." He did not say you could enter the buck in the Boone and Crockett listings, therefore there is absolutely no misrepresentation in the original post. Had he said that you could, you might have a point, but he did not so you don't.
I hope that you aren't trying to say that no whitetail that would measure 180 inches under the B&C system could possibly exist behind a fence.
There must be some sort of twilight zone on this message board where people read things into posts according to their personal biases. I could care less whether you think such a hunt is ethical. If you don't, don't go, but don't tell me I can't use the Boone and Crockett scoring method, or any other method I choose to use, to score any head of any North American animal I choose to score. I can, and no matter what your thoughts are on the ethics of how I hunted the animal, you can't stop me from doing so. If I shoot a whitetail buck on some fenced preserve and decide to use that method to score it, that would be perfectly legal to do. It would decidedly not be legal or ethical for me to enter it in the B&C record book, nor would I want to, but if I want to say that the head scores 180 under the B&C system, that would not be either illegal or unethical.
Most of my money I spent on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted
First rule under B&C is that the hunt must be fair chase by their guide lines and behind a fence is not fair chase according to them. Therfore you can not use the B&C scoring system because the animal fails the first test. I know it's a technicality but someone who is in the business of selling deer based on their antler size should, and does, know this. The reason he used B&C is because it sounds better than using SCI.
26 September 2011, 19:58
Gatogordo
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First rule under B&C is that the hunt must be fair chase by their guide lines and behind a fence is not fair chase according to them. Therfore you can not use the B&C scoring system because the animal fails the first test. I know it's a technicality but someone who is in the business of selling deer based on their antler size should, and does, know this. The reason he used B&C is because it sounds better than using SCI.
Your "therfore"(sic) is bullshit.
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27 September 2011, 01:49
505 gibbs
27 September 2011, 02:53
Geedubya
Question for the sticklers.
Just for shits and giggles, maybe you could answer me this.
If I were behind a high fence and was able to take these coons with Jim Beam rather than grinning them into submission like Dan'l or Davy, would that preclude me from scoring them B & C.
GWB
27 September 2011, 03:43
SFRanger7GP
Now that's funny right there....I don't care who you are...
27 September 2011, 03:52
muttleysgone
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First rule under B&C is that the hunt must be fair chase by their guide lines and behind a fence is not fair chase according to them. Therfore you can not use the B&C scoring system because the animal fails the first test. I know it's a technicality but someone who is in the business of selling deer based on their antler size should, and does, know this. The reason he used B&C is because it sounds better than using SCI.
Show me the law that says I can't use the B&C scoring method on any animal I choose. If it is not against the law, I could care less what their rules are. Their method of scoring is published and can be used by anyone. What they will not allow is for anyone to enter an animal into their record book that has been not been taken by their definition of fair chase. Your interpretation is baloney, but even though you are wrong, you are entitled to spout that opinion no matter how silly it is. This is America and stupidity is not a crime.
Most of my money I spent on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted
27 September 2011, 10:54
BrettAKSCI
The concept of "SOMEWHERE ELSE" is lost on some here..........unfreaking believable!
Brett
DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF
Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson
27 September 2011, 16:57
Aaron Neilson
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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Dude, that is funny!!!!
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27 September 2011, 20:03
Bwana Bunduki
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Originally posted by Geedubya: Question for the sticklers.
Just for shits and giggles, maybe you could answer me this.
If I were behind a high fence and was able to take these coons with Jim Beam rather than grinning them into submission like Dan'l or Davy, would that preclude me from scoring them B & C.
GWB
Would this be considered Green Hunting? Let them sleep off the Beam, wake em up and give them a couple of aspirin? Just askin???
Jeff
27 September 2011, 23:23
Geedubya
Something like that. However you have to be selective. Coons are smart and learn quick. Next time they'll won't come down unless I feature something like Gentleman Jack or Maker's mark.
That why I pull the old switcheroo and hit them with some el Jimador. Smooth as Patron but easier on the pocketbook.
Never knew what hit em.
Next time I might tell ya' about hunting hummin' birds behind a high fence. Trying to score a hummingbird tongue on the HF & OL scale can be tricky!
GWB
28 September 2011, 03:12
cable68
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Originally posted by Geedubya: Question for the sticklers.
Just for shits and giggles, maybe you could answer me this.
If I were behind a high fence and was able to take these coons with Jim Beam rather than grinning them into submission like Dan'l or Davy, would that preclude me from scoring them B & C.
GWB
They may be scored by the B&C system if taken with Jim Beam, but not enetered into the books as Bean is a Bourbon(Kentucky product: Boone). To be entered into the books they must be taken with a combination of a Bourbon and a Tenneesee Whiskey (Tenneesee:Crockett).
Caleb
28 September 2011, 03:31
Geedubya
Good thing that we have knowledgeable folks on this forum that can keep a ignorant ol'Texican on the straight and narrow. Wouldn't want to violate any rules.
GWB
28 September 2011, 06:13
Crazyhorseconsulting
I think the coon that is facing away from the rest will make book.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
28 September 2011, 09:35
Patricio Gaudiano
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Originally posted by Geedubya:.
That why I pull the old switcheroo and hit them with some el Jimador. Smooth as Patron but easier on the pocketbook.
GWB
Now this is a false statement........ El jimador is pretty awefull tequila...... well really patron isnt that great either.....
28 September 2011, 15:00
Geedubya
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Originally posted by Patricio Gaudiano:
quote:
Originally posted by Geedubya:.
That why I pull the old switcheroo and hit them with some el Jimador. Smooth as Patron but easier on the pocketbook.
GWB
Now this is a false statement........ El jimador is pretty awefull tequila...... well really patron isnt that great either.....
Patricio, por favor, go with the flow. At the local medicinal dispensary where I procure my spirits, El Jimador is cheaper than Patron. How much should one spend on a bottle of Tequila that is going to be fed to coons?
As always, I'm open to suggestions and willing to learn from the voice of experience.
Oh well, I figured I'd catch heck for doing it behind a high fence, or for using bait, but not the type of bait I used. However, considering the tone of this thread............
Best
GWB
PS: Photos of your trophy coons w/ quality tequila would be instructive! H F & OL scoring is accepted, even encouraged.
28 September 2011, 16:50
Crazyhorseconsulting
Kelly's Hero's one of my all time favorite movies.
As for the High Fence coon hunting, all depends on the acreage involved and the stocking rate.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
28 September 2011, 19:17
BEGNO
If I shoot them there coons with a light at night can I still enter them in B&C? Can I score them with B&C even if I don't enter them? If I'm drinking the Jim Beam, does that count?
I need to know, I don't want to offend anybody.
BUTCH
C'est Tout Bon (It is all good)
28 September 2011, 21:51
Biebs
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I need to know, I don't want to offend anybody.
Too late!!!
28 September 2011, 23:38
Crazyhorseconsulting
Only people you are going to offend are arse holes that can't properly judge a coon!!!!
Even the rocks don't last forever.
29 September 2011, 04:31
FMC
I've got my .22 sighted in at 37y, which is the distance to the tins of cat food on my other porch.
Is that considered baiting even though my wife is feeding her animals? Do I need to go SCI?
There are two types of people in the world: those that get things done and those who make excuses. There are no others.
29 September 2011, 06:02
lde
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Originally posted by FMC: I've got my .22 sighted in at 37y, which is the distance to the tins of cat food on my other porch.
Is that considered baiting even though my wife is feeding her animals? Do I need to go SCI?
As was pointed out earlier, that would be 'estate' rules. Come on man, get your regs right!!
29 September 2011, 06:03
Crazyhorseconsulting
I think SCI has a special category for that, but I believe they only give out Gold and Silver medals for coons as there is just way too many animals tht make the Bronze category!
Even the rocks don't last forever.
29 September 2011, 06:09
Biebs
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Let's put this thread to rest.
29 September 2011, 07:56
Crazyhorseconsulting
Naw, that ain't no fun!
Even the rocks don't last forever.
16 January 2012, 18:39
pigslayer
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Originally posted by Gatogordo:
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Originally posted by Geedubya: Never hunted high fence.
Never scored an animal I've shot.
but it seems a shame a fellow can't come here a post a legit offer, (whether you consider it a hunt or not) and not be subject to scorn and ridicule.
Best
GWB
+1 Exactly.
All the people who are adding their "insights" should just shut the fuck up and go on to another thread. I wouldn't take this hunt, but many others might and that is their choice and their hunt.
and yet you would espouse to never ever book a hunt with jeff blair ? sweep behind your own door first or maybe your own fence ! hahahaha
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