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I got a call from Berit and Bill Pace this morning. They have asked me to post this email from them. I am sure this has been discussed before. FYI
Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | ||
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Sorry Berit and Bill are dealing with this. I know they were looking forward to this trip. DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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Note this was "booked on line" - Travel Agents familiar with African travel would have known for years that in order to fly thru UK to Zimbabwe, one must ticket to South Africa, then obtain separate tickets for the flight from Joburg to Zimbabwe. Rusty certainly a good reminder [warning] as people look to avoid flying thru South Africa next year. Glad they got it all worked out, and hope they have a good trip. | |||
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The entire EU have had an arms embargo to Zinbabwe for many years. The UK enforce it for sporting firearms as well and some other EU countries choose to be more flexible and may allow sporting firearms to travel. See Zimbabwe here: http://www.shakariconnection.c...ort-regulations.html I'll add that the firearms are not confiscated, they're just not permitted to travel and the owner can reclaim the firearms from customs on his way back. Also all the airlines have their own firearms regulations etc including details of arms embargos on their websites. I'm sorry to hear the hunter concerned had problems but had they done their research properly, they'd have found out about the restrictions well before travel. They have after all been in force for some considerable (probably about 10) years. I'm also suprised the outfitter was unaware of the situation. I'll add that don't you just love people like Mr Nagra who have the arrogance to assume they have the God given right to tell complete strangers how they should spend their money and where they should travel! Reminds me of that famous quote from Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn which said: One can build the Empire State Building, discipline the Prussian army, make a state hierarchy mightier than God, and yet fail to overcome the unaccountable superiority of certain human beings.  | |||
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No offense intended but this is not new. | |||
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Oh if only all persons on earth were as well informed as Steve. | |||
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The UN arms embargo is nothing new and has been in force for probably over 10 years. Bearing in mind that in a few months time, I'll have been in the hunting safari business for 30 years it's not really that suprising that I've learned a thing or two in that time. You're not related to that Mr Nagra in London by any chance are you?  | |||
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Steve, when do you find time to hunt as you lurk here most of the time. We don't see most of the people in the business during the season. Inquiring minds wonder about this fact. | |||
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Then enquiring minds should read my posts more carefully. If they did, they'd find out that I'm: A. Semi retired from the field and now only hunt with old clients/friends who I've hunted with in the past and want to hunt with in the future. B. Hope to be pretty much fully retired from the field in the not too distant future. C. Have had other guys working for/with me/us for some considerable number of years. D. The owner of something called an RB Gan which allows satellite internet access from anywhere in the world, including anywhere in the bush. Even when fully retired from the field, I'll still run the company but may possibly widen my horizons and also broaden the company activities as well...... actually, that seems to be happening already but more by accident than intent. All that said, inquiring minds might be interested to know that I can't envision a time when I'll just sit back and do bugger all. even with age and arthritis (actually, especially arthritis) sneaking up on me, I'm far too restless/impatient to do nothing. | |||
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Are there any restrictions on advertising on these forums-ie, signing with e-mail addresses and web sites? There should be! | |||
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My email addy is available in my profile page. But then again that's not the issue is it?   Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Why? The site owner who very graciously sponsors the site entirely out of his own pocket has decided to permit free advertising etc. If you visit the hunts offered forum, you'll even find no end of hunts on special offer which can only benefit both hunters and outfitters alike. If it's OK with him, what right does anyone else have to contradict that decision? I guess if you disagree with him, you could always take it up with him. | |||
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so, make it simple; don't travel thru Europe enroute to Africa anywhere any time. Just advise them you are choosing to spend your money where hunters are considered valuable customers. Who else travels as much as hunters do? I can't feel too sorry for them, England has been anti-firearms, and most other civil rights for decades. If any of the EU government officials were dying of thirst and I had to walk ten feet to piss down their collective throats... Good News!! New governments are going to be elected. Socialist bastards!! Thomas Jefferson once said the US has the second worst form of government in the world. Fortunately, every other country is tied for first. A pox on all their houses. Rich | |||
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For staters-- you could-- Start your own website -- generate your own rules-- Besides what is the matter with telling people what you do and how to find you?? Particularly if ALL members can-- what is the issue that disturbs you?? DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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IF I am elected President of the USA in the next election ALL of this would change. IF necessary, I would NUKE London, for sure Mugabe, and a "few" other places as well. Hunters would benefit. PS. flights WOULD go from the USA DIRECTLY into Safari countries, as I would NUKE Joberg as well. PS Afton House, would not be affected,[Surigical Strikes], so after a few weeks, plains game Safaris in South Africa would not be effected. ALSO, elephant ivory from Mozambique would be importable. As would Polar Bears from Canada, there is no shortage... Also Wolves in the USA would have the same "rules" as Mountain Lions in Texas... NO closed season... No bag limit... DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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PS, I would make a "few" phone calls overseas, and if necessary a "few" bombing runs, and Gasoline would be fifty cents a gallon. There would be NO illegal aliens in the USA. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Good to see that tolerance is still alive and well in the colonies | |||
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  Mind you perhaps a little something dropped on the Houses of Parliament to sort out that turncoat wanker Gordon Brown and the rest of those snout in the trough, chinless wonder pillocks might not go amiss!  | |||
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If the Brit Police get their grubby mitts on your guns you won't want to get them back. I have seen what happens to them while in custody and it AIN'T PRETTY!!! Ps. have a little patience with the Yanks, in case you haven't heard they have a Half Black Liberal running things just now, and it seems to chafe a bit. Also the correct term is " One Eyed Scottish turncoat wanker Gordon Brown" "When doing battle, seek a quick victory." | |||
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Clarkson for PM!!!!! | |||
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Honestly... you'd think our american cousins would show more gratitude. After all, if it wasn't for us Brits they'd all be speaking French. Seven Years War 1763 etc etc...   ------------------------------ Richard VENARI LAVARE LUDERE RIDERE OCCEST VIVERE | |||
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I hate to imagine how they would have screwed the French language, if the way they have screwed the Queens English to go by  | |||
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Perhaps you forget-- many of the colonists that fought the American Revolution in 1776 , fought the French and Indian War First. Then decided they wanted no foreign Crown in control-- English or French. Faites vous comprenez? DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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Thankyou gentlemen, I got more laughs out of this thread, than any in the humor forum...what was the original subject? Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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Yeah, we fought in the French and Indian War as a warm-up to then kicking ass on the English, where we taught and showed them how to really fight, and all of this was done, can you believe it, with just 13 small colonies. David vs. Goliath for sure. (That's why any prior reference here on AR to us "American Philistines" completely missed the boat as to who the real Philistines and the real Goliath really were) | |||
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Hear hear to the Queen's language! And her beautiful ladies!  | |||
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Je parle français très bien. But not the tea-drinking, crumpet-and-cucumber-sandwich-eating, nancy-speak that is more commonly called the Queen's English. Having said that, I do readily admit that the Queen's English is more manly than the King's used to be! I prefer Scouse! And what's more, to return to the original rant, if I were National Security Advisor, I would strongly recommend the use of neutron bombs. They kill all the wankers, but spare from total destruction all of the quaint historical piles and monuments to past glory. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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let us not forget if it were not for us foul speaking americans All of europe and the UK would be speaking German NRA LIFE MEMBER DU DIAMOND SPONSOR IN PERPETUITY DALLAS SAFARI CLUB LIFE MEMBER SCI FOUNDATION MEMBER | |||
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We got one! Jeff remind me exactly when the Germans were going to invade the UK. Then remind me exactly when Hitler declared war on the US. ------------------------------ Richard VENARI LAVARE LUDERE RIDERE OCCEST VIVERE | |||
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Ill informed nonsense as usual. We'd be speaking French because the French owned most of the country before 1800. The "Queens English" is some sort of neander-cave English evolved (minimally) and tortured by inbred smash-faced snaggle toothed islanders. The primary problem with the UK is they're in possesion of only three sets of chromosomes on the floating ratberg, one of which is Pakistani and another is sheep!! Consider that REAL ENGLISH is a GERMANIC language which little resembles the manure spoken by the bulk of Modern Angloland. Think that about overs it eh ...?? Steve? Something to add ...?? Been a while since I've posted en masse here ... still as amusing!! | |||
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Mate, Germanic or otherwise we Brits are still happy we were able to loan it to you guys to butcher!  As for the rest, hey, I chose to leave Pudding Island and go to live in a country where the sun shines and political correctness rarely raises it's ugly head........ so maybe we're not too far apart huh? | |||
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How are things in the Land Down-Over Mate ...?? One thing you gotta love about Anglos is they can take a wallop upside the head and laugh it off ... Frogs would have declared war over my previous statement ... plus you'ns still make the best booze!! BTB - there is ONLY one modern language in the world ... ask any Commercial Pilot!! | |||
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Life's fine here but I could do with some bugger inventing a 48 hour day and staff that have s few more brain cells to rub together, so I don't have to watch them so bloody closely! I reckon the sweaties (cockney rhyming slang for the Scots) make the best booze! As for your last comment, I wish someone would explain that to the ATC guys at Nelspruit/KMIA who seem to think that Afrikaans is the lingua franca of local aviation!  | |||
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"Surgical strike" would that be a Blue one | |||
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An Aussie friend sent me this a while ago and it made me laught my socks off....... hope you enjoy it! To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II In light of your immediate failure to financially manage yourselves and also in recent years to elect incompetent Presidents of the USA therefore not be able to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.) Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas, which she does not fancy). Your new Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated sometime next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect: ----------------------- 1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,' 'labour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise.' Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary'). ------------------------ 2. Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ''like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter 'u'' and the elimination of '-ize.' ------------------- 3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. ----------------- 4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist,then you're not ready to shoot grouse. ---------------------- 5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public. ---------------------- 6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour. -------------------- 7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it. ------------------- 8. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar. ------------------- 9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. Australian beer is also acceptable, as Australia is pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion. --------------------- 10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt English dialogue in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater. --------------------- 11. You will cease playing American football. there are only three kinds of proper football; one you call soccer, Australian Rules and rugby (dominated by the Australians). Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies). ------------------- 12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the Australians (again World dominators) first to take the sting out of their deliveries. -------------------- 13. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad. ----------------- 14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776). --------------- 15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season. God Save the Queen! PS: Only share this with friends who have a good sense of humour (NOT humor)! | |||
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I just had a couple of ribs go! | |||
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These got left out, Reticle & Muzzle BRAKE!  | |||
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Steve: Man, I'd be out of work! Any suggestion on what I would do with my hundreds of vegetable peelers? Are the permits hard to come by? | |||
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