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My original post below was regarding ammo - seems to have been answered. During the ammo question research it has now morphed to "extra baggage fees/rates"

Anyone have any recent experience on either?

Booked to fly Frankfurt to Windhoek the end of Jun. Decided to try this route based on all the positive feedback.

Just checked their web site's baggage policy. Air Namibia Dangerous Goods Policy

If you look down to Para 2, sub para #3 "Explosives such as hand guns, ammunition, fireworks and pistol caps." seems to indicate ammo is prohibited.

Anyone flown Air Namibia recently and had any problems/issues. Our originating flight from the US is on US Airways and everything will be checked through.
 
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We where a group of four hunter who flew Oslo - Frankfurt - Windhoek in April with Air Namibia.
Neighter ammo nor rifles was any issue at all, things vent smoot as silk.
As I understand quite a lot of German hunters travel this route to Windhoek, so Air Namibia is very well used to handle guns and ammo.

It took a little while to get the paperwork done at Windhoek, as there was only one police lady on duty and we where at least 15 hunters on that flight, but she was all smile and very polite.

On the way home at Widhoek, the police asked how many gartridges we carried back with us, but they never checked.


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Same results here, In and out last week on SAA, no issues. Just use a lockable ammo case in your checked baggage.
 
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Kuduhunter:

Thanks for the reply but per my OP we are not flying SAA we are flying Air Namibia from Frankfurt.

We have done SAA on three previous trips with no ammo/guns problems (other than guns & bags "lost" for three days on the first trip) but just hate the transit/layover options via J'burg.

I know others have flown Air Namibia (presumably with ammo) without issues and I was just pointing out what they specifically state on their web site and if anyone had experienced any problems with Air Namibia.

Since we are going to Frankfurt on US Air, US Air and US FAA/TSA rules apply - and since we are checking everything all the way through to Windhoek I don't think Air Namibia will create any issues.....we are hoping anyway.

Maybe they are referring to ammunition for handguns since they clearly state they won't take handguns. Slippery slope trying to figure out what are handgun vs rifle ammo.
 
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I flew with them last June via Frankfurt-Windhoek.

Checked my bags from Helena-SLC-ATL all the way to Windhoek.

Put ammo in locked box in baggage, no problems whatsoever, very smooth.

I bet a third of the plane was hunters and like another poster said, took a while to clear guns in Windhoek but that was due to quantity of hunters not problems.
 
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I have gone thru Frankfurt to Windhoek via Air Nam 3 times and will do so again next week. It has never been an issue as you check your bags thru to Windhoek. They have got to know if we are bringing guns we are bringing ammo.


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Thanks for the replies. I know a lot of hunters use the Frankfurt/Air Namibia route and couldn't imagine them NOT being allowed to take ammo.

As part of my trip prep I always print and carry copies of the airline web pages with their policy on guns/ammo so in case there is a question during check in. In this case it won't really help since the Air Namibia web site indicates they don't accept ammo in checked luggage. Guess they could just be trying to cover their butts in case of a mishap.
 
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Well, I do not feel happpy reading the info at their homepage.
If I'm using Air Namibia I would have done a request about this.
Last year I used Lufthansa to SA. they confirmed the guns/ammo on the travelling doc's. I belive Air Namibia should do the same. If you meet the wrong guy in the checkInn I'm sure he can make a lot of fuzz.



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Checked deep into the Air Namibia site and found this:

Check 9.1.2


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ARTICLE 9 : BAGGAGE

9.1 ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE AS BAGGAGE

9.1.1 You may not include in your Baggage:

9.1.1.1 items which do not constitute Baggage as defined in Article 1 of these Conditions;

9.1.1.2 items which are likely to endanger the aircraft or persons or property on board the aircraft, such as items specified in the Dangerous Goods Regulations of the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and the International Air Transport Association (IATA), and in our Regulations (further information is available from us on request); 9.1.1.3 items that we cannot carry due to the applicable laws, regulations or orders of any state to be flown from, to or over;

9.1.1.4 items which we reasonably consider unsuitable for carriage because they are dangerous, unsafe or by reason of their weight, size or character, or which are fragile or perishable, having regard to, among other things, the type of aircraft being used. Information about unacceptable items is available upon request.

9.1.1.5 Live animals, except as provided for in Paragraph 11 of this Article.

9.1.2 We cannot carry firearms and ammunition (other than for hunting and sporting purposes) as Baggage. Firearms and ammunition for hunting and sporting purposes may be accepted as Checked Baggage in accordance with our Regulations. When you present a firearm for carriage it must be unloaded, the safety catch must be on, and it must be suitably packed. Carriage of ammunition is subject to ICAO and IATA Dangerous Goods Regulations.

9.1.3 You may not include in Checked Baggage fragile or perishable items, money, jewellery, precious metals, computers or other electronic devices, silverware, negotiable papers, securities or other valuables, business documents, passports and other identification documents or samples.

9.1.4 Weapons such as antique firearms, swords, knives and similar items may be accepted as Checked Baggage in accordance with our Regulations, but will not be permitted in the cabin.

9.1.5 If, despite being prohibited, any items referred to in Paragraphs 9.1.1 or 9.1.2 or 9.1.3 are included in your Baggage and we carry the Baggage, we shall not be responsible for any loss of or damage to such items.



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350:

Just been digging through their site too - NOT very user friendly is it.

I'm not too worried about the info gave in 9.1.2 as we will be hunting clear enough and the ICAO does allow ammo as is frequently hashed out and about here: 5Kg (ll lbs) per traveler checking guns. Either factory boxes or suitable fiber, plastic etc (so long as they are not loose and can scatter around. Locked box (seems to shift with the wind).

From what I can tell at this point ammo isn't an issue.

But, what I am wondering now is extra bag fees.

We will be originating our trip with US Airlines with two gun cases and two checked bags. Will have to pay $55 extra per bag for two of the bags ($110 total). Since they will be checked all the way through (via Frankfurt) we shouldn't have any issues going.

Coming back might be fun. Per the Air Namibia web site, we get one free bag each and have to pay for each additional bag with a 20kg limit per bag (we are flying Econ). But, if a hunter produces a copy of his/her hunting license you get an extra 10kg per hunter. From what I can make out from their "table" Air Namibia Baggage Table we will be charged $510.00 ND (50 Euro, $75.00 USD or so) per bag.

Since we are planing to bring a couple of our previous years completed trophies back with us on the plane as checked baggage, IF I am reading this right this is not too bad.

Can anyone else share the number of bags they checked when returning and the fees they were charged?
 
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M3taco.
We were allowed our rifle cases free (max 10 kilos, but they never weighted the cases) in addition to the free 20 kilo checked in baggage.
This is also according to their written policy.

We had one checked bag each (20 kilos free, inkluding ammo box) and the rifle case (10 kilos free) plus the cabin luggage (7 kilos free).
So I cant help you with your last question about extra checked in luggage


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Arild:

Thanks. If that holds true for our trip in a few weeks this is sounding better and better!!!

My only African hunting experience has only been Namibia - fourth trip coming up. So far everything has been very positive there. The worst thing to happen so far was on the first trip when out bags and guns didn't arrive when we did and where brought to the PH's place on the third day (7hr drive NW of WDH).

Since I always travel with extra copies of passports, 4457's, PH's address & phone number and had pre-filled out the Namibian Firearm Import permit, I just left a copy of everything with the Air Namibian Rep and the Police Officer on duty and gave the Police Officer a spare set of gun case keys and we left with the PH. Risky I know, but it was either that or wait in WDH with the PH until who knew when the stuff would show up at the A/P. The PH knew the PO so that helped a bit too.

Guess the Namibian government really understands the life blood hunting brings to the country and does a pretty good job in keeping things as smooth and simple as they can.
 
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I think it is still current that if your entire ticket is purchased in the U.S., then all legs of the flight, both going and coming, provide you with two free checked bags of not more than 50 lbs each. In other words, you can carry a clothing bag weighing 50 lbs and a gun case weighing 50 lbs and be within the free baggage limit.

Of course, this is only for international flights, and as you know, many of the U.S. domestic airlines are now charging extra for the first checked bag of any weight. I am uncertain if you have to take a connector flight to get to your international point of embarkation if the international baggage limit also applies to the domestic leg.
 
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