Can I take two 375s in my case on Delta through jburg to Zim? I've seen some discussion and read the airline regs but it is not clear. It seems like the most likely trouble spot would be transiting through RSA.

I took two .500 NE's to Zim in March but my route was via Dubai, not Jo'burg. No issues on the route I took.

The airlines don't care. There shouldn't be a problem, but if there is, it will undoubtedly be at JNB, which is why some of us avoid it whenever possible.

If your flight departs promptly from Joberg with your guns transfered directly to the other airline, I doubt you'll have a problem in RSA but if you have to overnight in Joberg, I doubt they'll let you.

Two years ago I saw a hunter trying to overnight in Joburg on his way to Zim with two rifles of the same caliber and he was not allowed to take either. I think this is spelled out on the SAPS website.

Karl

It's a ZA thing. If you must clear your guns in ZA, don't try.
Only solution I've used, needs 2 people...

TrademarkTexan,

You can do it. Christy with Gracy Travel specializes in doing the SAPS gun permit applications for clients and she says that two rifles of the same caliber are NOT a problem and that you can take ammo without a matching caliber rifle. You just need to jump through some simple hoops. You need a letter with your preapproved RSA gun permit stating that the second rifle is a back up and if you want to bring a couple of boxes of 375 ammo for your PH but you have a 300WM in your luggage you just need a 4457 showing you do own a 375. Of course the ammo weight needs to stay under the 5KG total allowed by the airline.

Call Christy at Gracy 800-299-8558. I'm sure she can walk you through it in a couple of minutes.

Mark

From the South African Police Service website:
Look near the bottom of the copied text for their position on 2 rifles of same caliber...

"Information on Importation of Firearms into South Africa

Section 73 of the South African Firearms Control Act , 2000 (Act No 60/2000) determine that no person may import into or take in-transit through South Africa any firearms or ammunition without a temporary import or in-transit permit issued in terms of the said Act.

Firearm entering South Africa not for the purpose of licencing in South Africa can be divided in the following categories:

Firearms entering South Africa for a period not exceeding six (6) months for the purpose of hunting, sport, self-defence, repair, law enforcement, exhibition where after it will return to country of origin, wherefor a temporary import permit may be issued.

Firearms entering South Africa to be transported over SA ground to another country in Africa for personal use wherefor a in-transit permit may be issued.

Firearms entering South Africa for a period not exceeding six (6) months for the purpose of hunting, sport, self-defence, repair, law enforcement or exhibition and then taken to another country other than the country of origin wherefor an temporary import permit and additional export permit may be issued.

How to obtain an temporary import, in-transit or export permit

An application by a person that is a non SA citizen and not the holder of a permanent residence permit for a temporary, in-transit or export import permit in respect of a firearm or ammunition not licenced under the Firearms Control Act, 2000 (Act No 60 of 2000), must in terms of the Act, submitted on a SAPS 520 “Application for a multiple import or export permit / temporary import or export permit / permanent import or export permit / in-transit permit for personal use” form either to the Central Firearms Control Register, Pretoria, South Africa , directly or to the Designated Firearms Officer at the place designated as a port of entry in terms of the Immigration Act 2002 (Act No 13 of 2002) where the applicant will enter into the Republic of South Africa.

The application form submitted must be an original completed and signed document.

Supporting documents to accompany the application:

The following supplementary documentation must accompany the application :

A certified copy of Passport documents.

A certified copy of a licence, permit, authorization or any other documentary proof confirming the lawful possession of the firearm.

A written mandate (appointment letter) as proof if a person was nominated to apply on behalf of the applicant. (Mandate received must be an original document signed by the importer where after the appointed can apply on behalf of the importer).

A written authorization which permits export from country of origin. (If not supplied by country of origin - written confirmation is required).

If applying at the port of entry - airline ticket to be produced.

With regard to in-transit and export permits an import permit from the recipient country. (If not supplied by country- writes confirmation is required)

Documentary proof with regard to the purpose of the visit issued by any one of the following persons or institutions, in South Africa confirming that, to the best of their knowledge and belief, the applicant will be using the firearm for the purpose set out in the application:

A professional hunter, or the hunting outfitter licensed to conduct business in hunting, who will provide hunting to the foreign visitor.

The accredited hunting association or sport-shooting organisation that is hosting the event or sport-shooting competition that the applicant will participate in,

An person or organisation hosting a public event or historical re-enactment or display that requires the foreign visitor’s participation and use of the specific firearm.

Issuing of an permit

An application submitted directly to the Central Firearms Control Register must be lodged at least 21 days in advance to enable the South African Police Service sufficient time to process the application and to submit the permit to the applicant to an address outside the borders of the Republic of South Africa or the nominated person.

The importer must be in possession of the original import permit when importing the firearms or ammunition.

The permit in respect of an application submitted to the Designated Firearms Officer (Police official) at the port of entry will be issued by the specific Designated Firearms Officer who received the application.

A temporary import permit will only be issued at the port of entry to the following persons

To a foreign visitor for the purpose of hunting.

To a foreign visitor to display the firearm and ammunition at a trade show or collections show or to display firearms and ammunition at a sports or hunting trade show.

To an official of a foreign government or a distinguished foreign visitor so designated by the SA Department of Foreign Affairs.

To a foreign law enforcement officer entering the Republic of South Africa on an officially approved policing assignment. To a foreign visitor to participate in a competitive sports shooting event, organised by recognised business, hunting, sport-shooting or collectors organisation.

If the applicant is twenty one (21) years of age and older.

If the rifles is not semi-automatic or fully automatic of action or hand carbines.

For only one(1) firearm per caliber.

Not more than two hundred (200) rounds of ammunition capable to be fired by the firearm imported."

Karl

Thanks all, I appreciate the responses.