Guys,

I am getting ready to cut the foam on my Pelican 1750 case. This is the first trip for two of my scoped bolt action rifles. I usually take a double and a bolt.

Anyway, question is should the rifles be aligned so the scopes face the interior of the case or exterior, or one each direction. Any thoughts and experiences? It is going to be a pretty tight fit since once scope is a 50 mm.

Thanks in advance.

Hello STGS;

You may find it easier to fit everything in, as well as safer, if you remove the scopes from the rifles. You can then either pack the scopes in your luggage or make cut-outs for them in your gun case.

If you pack with the scopes on the rifles, and something shifts, you have the weight of the gun potentially putting pressure on the scope.

Hugh

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Originally posted by hughman:
Hello STGS;

You may find it easier to fit everything in, as well as safer, if you remove the scopes from the rifles. You can then either pack the scopes in your luggage or make cut-outs for them in your gun case.

Hugh

Understood, but since I am not using QD mounts, I suspect I could have to do a fair bit of re-sighting the rifles. I would prefere to avoid that if possible.

Hey STGS

I use a similar case called a Stormcase, actually Pelican & Hardigg/Storm are now basically all one entiity. I cut my foam with my scoped rifle facing scope to the outside with about 2" of foam between scope & the edge of the case. I put my 2nd rifle either a double or a scoped rifle with Talley QD mounts(with the scope removed) just above it facing out which gave me plenty of room to make storage slots for lots of other goodies. I'll send you a pic if you pm me.

Cheers!

Tim

Tim,

You have a PM... Thanks for the help.

When I had a Pelican, I always had the scopes toward the top and bottom of the case. It was the only way I could make two scoped rifles fit. I never had a problem.

Every time I have flown with two scoped rifles, I put them in a Tuff Pak. No need to cut foam, or have that two inches of foam the only thing from possible disaster. A direct impact of moderate proportion with just a couple of inches of foam between the impact point and any part of the firearm, probably means the rifle is going to take a very hard shot. Survive, maybe, maybe not? Don't see the need to take the chance.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
Every time I have flown with two scoped rifles, I put them in a Tuff Pak. No need to cut foam, or have that two inches of foam the only thing from possible disaster . A direct impact of moderate proportion with just a couple of inches of foam between the impact point and any part of the firearm, probably means the rifle is going to take a very hard shot. Survive, maybe, maybe not? Don't see the need to take the chance.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

That is what I have never understood about the tuffpak. How can a rifle protected by half an inch of foam in a soft case, rattling around inside a plastic tube, be safer than a rifle held securely inside a case padded from all directions?

I guess you trust you extra clothing to pick-up the slack?

Jason - a properly packed Tuff Pak has nothing "rattling" around inside. You don't pack it solid, but just leave enough room that a blow to the outside of the case is not transfered to the contents. That blow will never reach anything enclosed in a good soft case. Extra clothing and the like has nothing to do with picking up any slack, just provides that "just right" amount to fill in the necessary space to accomplish the above.

By using the Tuff Sack, just the right amount of fill can be inserted and when it comes to an unexpected inspection from who knows where and when, simply slide the Tuff Sack out of the case, then slide it right back in when the "inspector" is satisfied all is well. Hope this helps?

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

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Originally posted by JBrown:

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
Every time I have flown with two scoped rifles, I put them in a Tuff Pak. No need to cut foam, or have that two inches of foam the only thing from possible disaster . A direct impact of moderate proportion with just a couple of inches of foam between the impact point and any part of the firearm, probably means the rifle is going to take a very hard shot. Survive, maybe, maybe not? Don't see the need to take the chance.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

That is what I have never understood about the tuffpak. How can a rifle protected by half an inch of foam in a soft case, rattling around inside a plastic tube, be safer than a rifle held securely inside a case padded from all directions?

I guess you trust you extra clothing to pick-up the slack?

I took two big scoped rifles last trip and had to go to the Pelican 1770 instead of the Storm iM3300 I had previously used twice. It was a pain, but the custom inserts that I had done worked great and I had room for lots of stuff arranged in two layers. I'm looking at a Mauser M03 now to eliminate this problem going forward.