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23 October 2017, 08:36
Ray Fryar
Update on my second rifle build
ey all here is the latest pcture of my second rfle the rifle is complete all that is left to do is do all of the final finshing on the stock and metal, thanks to all who encoraged me in the process.

I wll post some detailed pictures of all the finish work.


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23 October 2017, 20:47
Jim Kobe
Checkering?


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24 October 2017, 03:07
Sydney
Hi what action did you use?
It looks like a Dehass (spelling)
Did you build it yourself?
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24 October 2017, 06:17
Ray Fryar
Yes it is a de Haas FM 2 design and yes I built it all except for the barrel from raw materials.


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24 October 2017, 06:22
Ray Fryar
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
Checkering?

Can you do Checkering? I am pushing it to get it as far as I have with the limited experince (insert none) I have and I am not about to mess up all the work that it took to make the stock from scratch out of a blank. If it gets checkering it will be by somebody that knows what they are doing, not me!!


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24 October 2017, 07:14
Fjold
quote:
Originally posted by Ray Fryar:
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
Checkering?

Can you do Checkering? I am pushing it to get it as far as I have with the limited experince I have and I am not about to mess up all the work that it took to make the stock from scratch out of a blank. If it gets checkering it will be by somebody that knows what they are doing, not me!!


It looks great, Ray. I hear you about doing checkering, I bought all the tools and just trying to straighten out some crooked lines in some old stocks has maxed out my current capabilities.

What's it chambered for?


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24 October 2017, 07:16
Texas Killartist
Can Kobe do checkering ?
Y E S he can !
24 October 2017, 07:22
Ray Fryar
quote:
Originally posted by Texas Killartist:
Can Kobe do checkering ?
Y E S he can !

Was'nt ment as a bash. I just know what it takes to do the craft.


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24 October 2017, 18:42
butchlambert
I could send you photos of Kobe's checkering. Yes, it is very good.
26 October 2017, 05:44
gzig5
The stock looks nice to me. I'd like to see some details of the action.
27 October 2017, 04:46
Ray Fryar
Here are a few pic of the action
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27 October 2017, 19:05
Ray Fryar
quote:
Originally posted by butchlambert:
I could send you photos of Kobe's checkering. Yes, it is very good.

Yes I would Love to see some of His work


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27 October 2017, 19:44
butchlambert
quote:
Originally posted by Ray Fryar:
quote:
Originally posted by butchlambert:
I could send you photos of Kobe's checkering. Yes, it is very good.

Yes I would Love to see some of His work


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Pics really don't show how nice it really looks.
28 October 2017, 22:18
Ray Fryar
Very nice work. But until I win the Lotto and can aford to have someone checker it, or learn how to do it well enough myself (I don’t think I will live that long LOL) It will just have to be smooth for now. Thanks for posting the pictures. Wonderful work!


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29 October 2017, 05:17
ClaMar
Ray,

Lots to learn about checkering, and it's easy to really foul up a good rifle. I suggest doing a cheap .22 or throw-away stock first and learning all the lessons about layout, keeping lines straight, checkering around curves, and a bunch of other things.

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29 October 2017, 21:57
Ray Fryar
quote:
Originally posted by ClaMar:
Ray,

Lots to learn about checkering, and it's easy to really foul up a good rifle. I suggest doing a cheap .22 or throw-away stock first and learning all the lessons about layout, keeping lines straight, checkering around curves, and a bunch of other things.

Clarence

Yes I have a lot of scraps laying around that arent good for anything else that I will practice on but Im sure I will never get good enogh at it to try it on a rifle like this one. Thanks


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29 October 2017, 22:02
Ray Fryar
Starting load development and scope adjustment. This is what it will do with Sierra 300 gr HP at 100 yrds this is just with starting load development and getting the scope dialed in, it did almost as well with the Lee 405 HB just a lower poi. It would be better If I was taking my time and trying for grouping



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29 October 2017, 22:06
Ray Fryar
Just for giggles can someone tell me what a ballpark figure that it would cost to have my stock and forearm checkered Nothing too fancy but something nice.


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31 October 2017, 03:10
farbedo
Ahlmans posts their prices. $200ish for simple point pattern at 20lpi. Carol, there, does good work. Not artisan quality, but good work. Better than I have seen on some high grade arms that should have been ashamed.

No sure on other shops. My guess would be a bit more. $300 and up more than likely. Depends on coverage, pattern and lpi. It is all charged by the hour and shop rates seem to vary quite a bit.

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31 October 2017, 05:51
Ray Fryar
quote:
Originally posted by farbedo:
Ahlmans posts their prices. $200ish for simple point pattern at 20lpi. Carol, there, does good work. Not artisan quality, but good work. Better than I have seen on some high grade arms that should have been ashamed.

No sure on other shops. My guess would be a bit more. $300 and up more than likely. Depends on coverage, pattern and lpi. It is all charged by the hour and shop rates seem to vary quite a bit.

Jeremy

Thank you very much for the Info I may look around on the net and see about some prices.


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01 November 2017, 03:35
AnotherAZWriter
Do it Ray; wood stocks need checkering like a kid needs candy on Halloween. Sure, you can live without it, but what is the point?


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01 November 2017, 04:25
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
Better a smooth stock than a stock with crappy checkering.. $750 will get pretty nice, such as Kathy Foster, a checkering specialist with a superb reputation
01 November 2017, 06:32
butchlambert
Duane, she is pretty good.
12 August 2021, 18:25
Ray Fryar
Well all it has been a while but I finaly finished my rifle so what does everyone think of the final product?

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12 August 2021, 19:20
richj
Very nice. Is that called the Vault lock? need bigger pictures.




16 August 2021, 03:23
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
Did some checking around re checkering...I hought I was slow...pretty easy for me to get 16-20 hours in a wrap over the grip and around the fore end.


Suprise: I'm in the "about average" elapsed tiem frame. So....what I've seen posted here "$200.00-$300.00" is totally unrealsitic.
19 August 2021, 16:53
gasgunner
quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Did some checking around re checkering...I hought I was slow...pretty easy for me to get 16-20 hours in a wrap over the grip and around the fore end.


Suprise: I'm in the "about average" elapsed tiem frame. So....what I've seen posted here "$200.00-$300.00" is totally unrealsitic.


I don't do much checkering, but when I do I measure the time in Months not hours.

How common are the electric checkering tools among the top end guys such as yourself?

Shelhamer said he could do a simple 4 panel job in a day. I'd be lucky to get it laid out in a day. Years ago I borrowed a Fordom tool from a friend and used it for one job, I was surprised how much faster it was and relatively easy to control.

John