Guys,
I'd describe myself as being a mile wide and an inch deep.
By that I mean, I've probably owned at least 100 different centerfire rifles over the last 20 years. I reload for 55 or so different chamberings at last count.
However, for the most part these are production rifles.
Lately I've been winnowing down my collection.
I was thinking the other day that I've never owned a rifle chambered in 300 H&H.
I thinking of having one built.
I have a Sako AV chambered in 375 H&H so I know it will do, but I hate to sacrifice that rifle.

I'd thought about using a Sako L 61 or an AV action, encompassed by a nice piece of wood.
If you were to build a 300 H&H, what action would you use. I'm thinking of a bolt gun with magazine, rather than a single shot.
Best
GWB

I really like Sako's, I have a custom in 338 WM, I really dont think I would "sacrifice" one for a build, especially in 375 H&H.

If it were me, I'd do it on a Winny 70, lots of them around for reasonable prices that you could use.

In fact I have considered this very build in LH config. I would send it to Jim Kobe, and be one happy sukker when I got it back.

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If you were to build a 300 H&H, what action would you use.

A M-70 of some form.....If I can find a push feed already feeding a .300 H&H length cartridge I'd use it in a heartbeat....It's possible such chamberings as 7mm Mag can be altered to shoot the longer cartridge but I haven't done it.....so am not sure.

The M-70 Classic in any magnum chambering can be lengthened quite handily for the .300 H&H and you'll not find a better action for this cartridge IMO.

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I would send it to Jim Kobe, and be one happy sukker when I got it back.

Jim would do a fine job I can assure you.

The problem is the length of the magazine. Few rifles offer this outside of their already expensive selections. The rem 700, coming to mind, is probably the most available magnum action but I would opt for a classic mouser action if you can find one reasonable. The mark X's are out there and fit the bill.

I have a semi-custom FN Deluxe Mauser. IMO the next best option would be a pre-64 M70 since I prefer Mauser-type rifles. Would also be the cheapest route.

I would first look for a used Dakota model 97.
Second, I would look for a Dakota model 97....

Or I suppose a nice Mauser which I actually prefer the looks of but the Dakota 97 is a magnum bolt length throw and can be had for a reasonable sum of funds.

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Originally posted by Geedubya:

If you were to build a 300 H&H, what action would you use? I'm thinking of a bolt gun with magazine, rather than a single shot.

Best,
GWB

I'd look at Stiller or Nesika Bay. Go custom. Do it up right. Why bother rehashing a production action? You can get anything you want in a custom. Do it. You know you want to...

Take a look at the Stiller Predator® and Diamondback® actions...

I did one a few years back on a Winchester model 70 classic. It started out life as 7mm RemMag. The spacer in the magazine box was removed and the bolt stop shortened.

I think it's a great choice for that cartridge.



Terry

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Originally posted by homebrewer:
I'd look at Stiller or Nesika Bay.

IMO theres alot that just dont sound right about doing a 300 H&H on a Stiller or Nisika


beautiful rifle you have ther Terry....now thats what I'm talking about!

I think that TC1 has this right: M70 Classic. Lots of them around, not unreasonably priced, and of AT LEAST equal quality to a pre-64.

In a perfect world? Dakota 76.

1. Commercial mauser is the first one that came to mind.
2. Win Model 70 Classic
3. Maybe a Dakota, don't know your budget. If money is no object, then obviously one of the high end English rifles.

Stiller and Nesika just don't seem to fit, but they are good actions from what I have read.

Terry, does the bbl band have a different finish on it?

Whos 1/4 rib is that?

Who did the work?

In 1988 I hunted in Botswana with a .375 Sako Safari with that held five shots in the box plus one in the chamber. My "smallbore" was a Ruger 7mm Rem Mag. The Safari was so satisfactory, and the confusion of using two very different rifles so sevzre, that when I got back I located another Safari .375 and had it barreled to .300 H&H. No other alteration was required. They made a perfect pair. Alas, I never went back to Africa and sold them to a gent who did in fact use them there with great success.

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Originally posted by cmfic1:
Terry, does the bbl band have a different finish on it?

Whos 1/4 rib is that?

Who did the work?

I built the stock from a GAG turned pattern and the metal smith has long since disappeared. The metal is all the same color except for the Talley rings which are C/C hardened.

Terry

Mike at Bijou Creek is building me one now on a worked VZ-24 Mauser action, with a great blank from Luxus. I've always wanted a 300 H&H as well, and this one will be a beauty.

I use an original Sako Finbear in .300 H&H - feeds and shoots perfecht!

A Mod 70 will do well, as would a CZ550. You can order CZ actions bare, and get it with a mag face and big enough magazine. Like mentioned before though, you can find good deals on M70 classics just about anytime, and its rather simple work. A gunsmith qouted me under 200$ to convert a M70 classic from 270 to 300 Wby. If you're not dead set on a CRF rifle, post-64's and R700's have the length

I've decided to use a Sako action, now just have to decide whether to use an L61r, an AV or a 75. I'm looking at a couple different rifles at the present.
Hopefully I can find a donor rifle with reasonable wood.
GWB

CZ in 375 H&H. New barrel is all it takes. Comes with a three leaf express rear, and hooded globe front, and that nifty barrel lug. Still holds five down and one up the pipe.
Have Wayne do a #3 on it and slim the stock down.
Under two-grand IIRC.

Rich

here's mine

The gunshop next town over has a 1917 enfield that has a BSA logo and Made in England above the bolt release, nitro proofs. Long barrel, nice blueing, bottom metal straightened. I looked at it and thought how nice it would be rechambered to 300 H&H, $260. I have a sako pre garcia, I barreled to 300H&H but never got around to doing anything but dropping it back in the old stock. I should either finish or sell it I suppose.?

I've got two .300H&H's. The first is an Interarms Mark X Mauser, 26" w/ express sight, barrel ring, and topped off with a Burris LRS 4x14. The other a Ruger #1 custom that focuses on duplicating a real Farquarhson. Both my guns have match grade custom barrels. Best calibre ever, easiest to hand load, and feeds very smoothly in a control feed. My favorite bullet is the 200gr Speer Spitzer BT. Go to the larger bullets, 200-220 grain. That's where this caliber really exceeds. Mike

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Originally posted by butchloc:
here's mine

Butchloc, great rifle. I'm envious. I wish you hadn't put that picture up. Please hide it. Mike

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Originally posted by mdstewart:
a Ruger #1 custom that focuses on duplicating a real Farquarhson.

Do you have any pics?
Sounds interesting

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Originally posted by cmfic1:

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Originally posted by mdstewart:
a Ruger #1 custom that focuses on duplicating a real Farquarhson.

Do you have any pics?
Sounds interesting

I'll have some pics soon, it's off getting case colors at present. No engraving however; couldn't find a good engraver who wanted to do it. None of them like #1's, they say the steel is too hard. A killer piece of wood on this gun though, 4X English Walnut. I'll send pics when it comes back. Thanks for the inquiry. Mike

Sounds like a winner Mike, cant wait to see

Find a Ruger #1-S in 7mm Rem Mag and send the 7mm barrel to the garden for a tomato stake.

Find a M70 in 7mmSTW

Geedubya,

Can't go wrong with a Sako. I guess which one to use depends a lot on which one you can find for the best price. There is one at the LGS with gorgeous wood, awesome rifle, in 7 STW. Almost wish I had the 1200$ to buy it!

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Originally posted by Geedubya:
...thought about using a Sako L 61 or an AV action...I'm thinking of a bolt gun with magazine...
GWB

Of course, my first choice would be to order a Holland & Holland Best magazine rifle, or maybe a Deluxe Modele.

But, if I had a Sako action sitting around I would probably put that to good use. Coincidentally, I found myself in just that situation. Several months ago I sent an L691 action and a synthetic stock to Magnum Research to have them barrel it with one of their Magnum Lite carbon wrapped barrels, chamber it in 300H&H, assemble and bed the works, and finish it. Mixing the old-time classic British cartridge with a space-age Finnish action and a computer-age carbon fiber barrel is sure to be viewed by some as the ultimate clash of styles. The rifle is supposed to be here in a few days so I'll let you know how it worked out.

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Originally posted by Grenadier:
Mixing the old-time classic British cartridge with a space-age Finnish action and a computer-age carbon fiber barrel is sure to be viewed by some as the ultimate clash of styles.

Seems like an accurate description....cant wait to see it

Imagine if it was a space age-ish rifle with carbon fiber barrel in .375 H&H, Flanged. THAT would be a clash.

Here it is. Sako L691 in 300H&H with Magnum Research carbon fiber wrapped barrel. It arrived just today so I only had time to throw some rings on it. I'll post more later in another thread.

But, to the point of this thread - Yes, Geedubya, a Sako action can be used for building a 300H&H in whatever flavor of stock and accessories your heart desires. If you like Sakos then go for it.

I don't know about building one but last year I bought a pre-64 Win. 70 made in 1951 that is an absolute tack driver. I put a Leupold 3x-9x on it that I had laying around with the intention of upgrading the scope later. Heck it shoots as well as some of my varmint rifles and I am afraid to take the scope off. I may just leave it. I always heard the 300 H&H was inherently accurate and I am inclined to believe it even though the case defies common thinking on how an accurate case should be designed. I mean Winchester went to all of that trouble to design the short mags and I can't see how they could beat the one I've got. Build one and I am convinced you will like it. I bought mine as a light rifle for Africa and was going to work up a load with the 200gr. Nosler, but I found a gun shop with a stack of Federal Safari grade ammo with the 180gr. Nosler and bought them all at almost brass prices. It just happend to love the load. I may never load a round for it.

Well,
I picked up a Sako l61r, chambered in 7 mag and an attractive price. The wood is fair, but I'll have to strip and refinish the stock. Will be sending it off soon to have it re-barreled to 300 H&H.

GWB