congratulation, this is one of the finest rifles i have ever seen.......wow.....H&W is the benchmark......

waidmannsheil

I love seeing top grade Bolt action rifles built on the old M98.

Superb! The engraving and colour case-hardening really tops it off. Congratulations!

that Sir is true a work of art and I hope that you use it well in the field to get the full joy of that workmanship

I wonder if that barrel contour is what is known as the Bavarian Classic?

Exceptional, yet one wonders why a bit of custom contouring couldn't have been done to mask the origins and slabbed geometry of the aftermarket bolt shroud.

Oh wait until Biebs sees this!

I wonder if its a 1909 action.

It looks like a 1909 to me. Maybe Trax will link the site the pictures were lifted from.

Terry

A 1909, and color case hardened? Ohm the horror! That sucker is going to blow any second......

Magnificent!

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Originally posted by 22WRF:
I wonder if its a 1909 action.

Usually when "1909" alone is used in regards to a Mauser it denotes a 1909 Argentine action. I believe the rifle pictured employes a 1909 Peruvian action(usually called a "1909 Peruvian to differentiate it from an Argentine), which is an all together different beast(shorter bolt, longer ring, large ring/small threads, and the classiest, extra tall/slab sided charger charger hump to grace any Mauser).

I don't believe the Peruvian suffers from the same "heat-treating" questions that plague the Argentine.

BTW, I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, and I realize the you(or some of you) may have been referring to the 1909 Peruvian. I just wanted to clarify that this is not the common '09 that is often found in custom rifles.

Note charger hump:

IMO,this rifle would look much nicer with a new action like a H&W.I think this action ruined the project.It's like putting old rusted rims and frame on a brand new Rolls Royce.Very nice wood.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
IMO,this rifle would look much nicer with a new action like a H&W.I think this action ruined the project.It's like putting old rusted rims and frame on a brand new Rolls Royce.Very nice wood.

IMO, you are a ________ idiot.

Sorry I just can't think of a nice way to put it. It's just that you seem to always come up with the most asinine things to say.

I really am sorry for getting personal, but trust me I am biting my tongue to keep from saying more.

BTW, what about a new H&W action would "look nicer" than this Peruvian action?

When building a take down from an Oberndorf action they H&W) use to prefer the Peruvian 1909 for one reason.

The Peruvian action has the small thread.
So they can bore out the old thread and apply their special thread a n d there remains enough flesh in the receiver front ring.

The bottom metal in this case is Argentine 1909.

After all that years in dealing with Mausers I have to learn how the use of a Peruvian Mauser can "ruin" a rifle.

quote:

IMO, you are a ________ idiot.

Sorry I just can't think of a nice way to put it. It's just that you seem to always come up with the most asinine things to say.

ROFL!!!

pure sex, that one!

More H&W bolt-actions for your pleasure

http://www.hartmannandweiss.co...nn-weiss-katalog.pdf

Money can't buy happiness, but that rifle is one hell of a start. I want it.

The Peruvian 1909 and Costa Rican 1910 are both "Rigby" actions that are shorter than the standard 98, small thread, and both are excellent actions.

I think the Peruvians are beautiful. Not only was the Mauser action a feat to make in the early 1900's, but the 1909 Peruvian was a variant outside the norm that is even more interesting.

Should have added to my post above that the thread of the Peruvian Mauser is also longer than the standard what increases the amount of bearing surface for the trapezoidal rethreading of the H&W take down rifle for a longer life.

So if one uses a prewar Mauser action for a take down project the Peruvian is the best choice for technical reasons and to my taste also for the aesthetics.

I have heard and read the word "gunporn" many times. Now I know what it means.

WANT!

Droooool! Wonderful crftsmanship!

i personally would rather have a peruvian or argentine action,its a little bit more character wise to me and just as good...paul

If you really want to see porn, hit their website and look at the shop photos.: Better constructed and cleaner than most folks' houses. Premium equipment. More than adequately tooled. More than adequate inventory of parts & supplies. Young upcoming gun builders working in the shop and learning from the real masters.

I would pay just to sweep the floors and take the trash out.

They sort of put American custom gun builders to shame.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
It's like putting old rusted rims and frame on a brand new Rolls Royce.Very nice wood.

I would say it is just the opposite. It's like building a hot rod out of a classic car.

THAT IS SO OVER THE TOP...
I want one!

junk box

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:
IMO,this rifle would look much nicer with a new action like a H&W.I think this action ruined the project.It's like putting old rusted rims and frame on a brand new Rolls Royce.

I am still waiting for you to explain how this rifle would look nicer with a new action........

Keep in mind, heavenknows has already explained why this 09 peruvian is superior to the modern actions for the H&H style take-down.

quote:

Originally posted by heavenknows:
Should have added to my post above that the thread of the Peruvian Mauser is also longer than the standard what increases the amount of bearing surface for the trapezoidal rethreading of the H&W take down rifle for a longer life.

So if one uses a prewar Mauser action for a take down project the Peruvian is the best choice for technical reasons and to my taste also for the aesthetics.

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:
IMO,this rifle would look much nicer with a new action like a H&W....

H&W do not make new manufacture stdM98 length receivers[only Kurz and Magnum]...neither well matched to .25/06 & 35Whelen.

Like the Peruvian 1909,..New manufacture H&W M98 actions have an extended front receiver ring & thread,
as do new GMA mauser actions, which are avail. in stdM98 length for 25/06 & 35whelen.

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:
IMO,this rifle would look much nicer with a new action like a H&W.I think this action ruined the project.It's like putting old rusted rims and frame on a brand new Rolls Royce.Very nice wood.

What did Mother tell you about keeping your mouth shut when you don't have something nice to say?



Trax-Stunning rifle sir. Thank you for posting pics.

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Originally posted by Hizzie:


What did Mother tell you about keeping your mouth shut when you don't have something nice to say?

These forums would be awful boring if we all followed that rule......

At least George always has something "interesting" to say. Even if it does induce a cursing fit as often as not.

VERY NICE