The Accurate Reloading Forums
Blackburn Metal ?
17 September 2019, 06:27
Gale JohnsonBlackburn Metal ?
Blackburn 1, 3.410 long, .882 wide in front, 1.005 wide in the back
This is older original metal, anyone have an idea what caliber it would be suitable for? Win Mags
17 September 2019, 09:18
lindy2If I recall correctly the Blackburn #1 was for a Pre-64 Winchester Model 70 30-06 length. standard depth. I think the Mauser numbers started with 9, and anything with an X after the number was an extra deep box. If you have a mauser action and you want to shoot win mags you need a #17
17 September 2019, 18:06
Gale JohnsonOk, it came off a ZG 47 , which I think is standard Mauser spacing between 7 13/16 and 7 7/8, I stacked 5 375 h&h loaded to 3.4 with cast bullets, they fit nicely, by the time you put the spring and follower, maybe 4 down?
17 September 2019, 20:34
lindy2Are you sure its a Blackburn #1?
Maybe Swift kept the same numbers as Ted used when he was making them. You could check with Swift to see if they did, and then you would know for sure what the #1 was for, but again, I am pretty sure all of the lower numbers were for Pre 64 Winchesters.
17 September 2019, 21:29
Gale JohnsonStamped Blackburn 1 on the floor plates
18 September 2019, 18:25
tom masonNo.1 is for a 30.06 length Pre-64 M70. No. 9 is for a 30.06 length Mauser.
18 September 2019, 18:43
gunmakerquote:
Originally posted by Gale Johnson:
Ok, it came off a ZG 47
A functioning rifle?
post a few pics of what you have.
18 September 2019, 20:07
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)Why don't you just try some ammo in the box to see how it stacks up
19 September 2019, 18:35
Gale Johnsonquote:
Originally posted by tom mason:
No.1 is for a 30.06 length Pre-64 M70. No. 9 is for a 30.06 length Mauser.
This metal has 7 13/16 inch spacing between screws, both of my pre 64s measure about 7 1/2incnes, I had some metal stamped 5 that was the same spacing, 7 13/16 approximately and it fit the -06 cases perfectly
19 September 2019, 18:36
Gale Johnsonquote:
Originally posted by gunmaker:
quote:
Originally posted by Gale Johnson:
Ok, it came off a ZG 47
A functioning rifle?
post a few pics of what you have.
No, just a action, don't have time for pics today
19 September 2019, 18:39
Gale Johnsonquote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Why don't you just try some ammo in the box to see how it stacks up
It stacks 5 short loaded (3.4) 375 H&H in there nicely
20 September 2019, 19:58
tom masonI have a list of Ted Blackburns bottom metals that he was making in Jan. 2007. If you need the model no.s let me know.
19 October 2019, 06:15
AtkinsonFrom time to time you can find any bottom metal that's been modified, I have several on hand.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
20 October 2019, 21:55
Russ GouldIf you do the math, 1" wide at the back is for a belted mag ctg. This is based on the ctgs stacking in equilateral triangles. 3.4 is too short for the H&H ctgs. I would guess this box is for a 300 Win Mag or similar. I think it's a bit narrow in front for a 458 Mag, even though it may work for that ctg.
Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC
BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris
Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns
VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear