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https://youtu.be/diG1TqPSkQI

Just finished up this video. It shows the process I use to machine a half octagon barrel as well as the accompanying rear sight base. Haven't finished the rifle yet, but it is a .375 Ruger. Kind of a mix of classic and modern. The customer's heading to Alaska with it and wanted a fiberglass stock but it will have many of the classic touches a fine wood rifle would. I'll post pics when finished.
 
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Nice work. One question, why aren't you using an insert with a chip breaker when reducing the barrel diameter.

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So cool. Are you going to remove the step where the octagon joins the round?

My Simson is so cool with full length rib.

Wish you great success in making such barrels


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Thanks. Just because that was the insert I had in my box that was sharp at the time. Does make a bit of a rats nest though.
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Nice work. One question, why aren't you using an insert with a chip breaker when reducing the barrel diameter.

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Keeping the step. As far as barrel design, I just copied a picture of what the customer was looking for. I've seen several different transitions for half octagon barrels(quite a few on AR). On one I liked there was a convex cut where the two joined. I'm no expert on them so I'm very open to suggestions on what looks the best.
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So cool. Are you going to remove the step where the octagon joins the round?

My Simson is so cool with full length rib.

Wish you great success in making such barrels
 
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Use a wedding band instead of a step; like they did in the 1700s on half octagon flint barrels. It makes the transition look good. To me.
Nice video; we do things very similarly. Machining I mean.
 
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Nicely done..keep up the good work
 
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What is the lucky action that will receive such a nice barrel?
 
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Excellent video. Like wise very skilled work.


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The only thing I see that's missing is your safety glasses! Don't operate a machine tool without 'um... Otherwise, a real nice piece of work.


 
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Ditto on the safety glasses while machining and silver soldering. You only have one set of eyes, and stuff happens.


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Lindy - It's a Dakota action.

Silvers and loud-n-boomer - You're right I should have had safety glasses on, especially for the video. I did for the lathe work but neglected to on the mill. I should know better as I've been to the eye doc twice now to get metal pulled out of my eyes (neither time from gun work).
 
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Very nice work!


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Very nice work!


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Yes, indeed !
 
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Curious if you considered milling the rear base integral? Not a critique of your work, just a question.

Great work, and thanks for taking the time to make a video of it.

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Yes I did. Basically I quoted the job to the customer with two different options for the barrel, one with integral features and one with solder on sights. It just came down to cost savings for the customer, as I figured the same barrel with integral features was going to be $1k more. In hindsight it probably would have taken less time to make the rear sight integral than making a sight, soldering and cleanup. I would have had to start with a larger diameter barrel though.
Thanks for the compliments.
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Curious if you considered milling the rear base integral? Not a critique of your work, just a question.

Great work, and thanks for taking the time to make a video of it.

Jeremy
 
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I personally do not like soldering sights, if I had to pick the worst things, after wood work, I am terrible at soldering. I can do it, it is functional, but I am never happy with how it looks and I am never happy with how long it takes.

For me, and I am saying this from a manual machining perspective, I have found that integral features are not that much more expensive than fitting and soldering.

I would rather be standing at the mill making chips than sweating sight bases on.

Next time I am in Vermont can I stop by and say hello?


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Sorry, Nathaniel. Just saw your reply. Yes, please stop by if you're in the area.

I agree, regarding soldering. It's an art that I have certainly not mastered.
 
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Pictures of the finished rifle. I would have much rather used a nice piece of English walnut for this project, however I do enjoy adding classic touches to a composite stock.













 
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Beautiful rifle. Never seen case colouring with a synthetic stock, and I must say, it works pretty well!
 
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Sorry, Nathaniel. Just saw your reply. Yes, please stop by if you're in the area.

I agree, regarding soldering. It's an art that I have certainly not mastered.


No problem! Next I am in the area I will send you a message.

thanks


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Mayhaps you're using the Bownell's solder? "Force 44"

Not had luck with that..solders OK, but contunual after rust seems to never get under control

I like Harris products
 
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If I remember correctly I did exactly one barrel with the Brownells Force 44 and Comet flux. Everything around the sight, on the sight, under the sight, rusted.

I never could understand what I did wrong, so I am relieved to hear I may not have been completely at fault!

Thank god it was a barrel for me!!!


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I’m curious who did the CCH, and if they do pre-war mausers?


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Turnbull did the CCH.
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I’m curious who did the CCH, and if they do pre-war mausers?
 
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Thank you! I'd never seen it before either, though I'm sure it's been done.
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Beautiful rifle. Never seen case colouring with a synthetic stock, and I must say, it works pretty well!
 
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