They are not kiln dried. I have been to the "shop" many times.

Also reference Logger2 comments; take them with a grain of salt.

Chris's customer service is great and he stands behind what he sells.

Ramrod knows what he is talking about.

The best person to ask questions of is Chris. Period

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Originally posted by ramrod340:

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You might also check with member ramrod340 I know he has also used many blanks from Walnutgrove

Who me???

I also agree you should contact Chris. I bought a number of blanks from Chris over the last few years. Found him very easy to talk to. I have not bought anything from him since late 2015. I was only looking for pattern or square sawn blanks and his new mega duplicator was using everything he had. So I simply went to another supplier.

When I talked to him I didn't get the impression it was kiln dried. But, I don't remember the question being asked either. What I got from him was the wood was cut into slabs and left to dry. Then blanks were cut when they had an order. How they were dried I have no clue. I "assumed" air dry but key is "assumed"

As I said I bought (or had customers buy and dropped shipped) a number of pattern blanks and usually quarter sawn. Nothing remotely like the two blanks above. I've never had an issue nor have heard of one from people I have cut a Walnut Groove stock for.

Maybe I'm naïve but I see the time to dry and stabilize for a simple straight quarter sawn blank as far less than something like the beautiful ones above.

and mister 345 I DIDNT SAY KILN DRIED I SAID STABLIZED
I also said the stocks I got there were NO GOOD
machining was horrible
I had a customers order directed directly to walnut grove for ruger number I stocks
customer couldn't use them because the draw bolt hole was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OFF
so far off there was no place to drill the bottom hole for the recoil pad
and mister smart mouth 345 YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING YOUR TALKING ABOUT YOU WERE NOT THERE
SO WHY DONT YOU JUST GO HI-JACK ANOTHER THREAD YOU MISTER ISIS SEEM TO BE GOOD AT IT

I never mentioned anywhere that you had said anything about the stocks being kiln dried

I have had no problem with the machining, I figure they are about 90% inletted. Enough wood left for me to make my own mistakes.

I know Chris well enough to know that he stands behind his work.

Your "mister ISIS" comment pretty much proves my point about taking what you say with a grain of salt.

Have a good day.

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Originally posted by Logger2:
and mister 345 I DIDNT SAY KILN DRIED I SAID STABLIZED
I also said the stocks I got there were NO GOOD
machining was horrible
I had a customers order directed directly to walnut grove for ruger number I stocks
customer couldn't use them because the draw bolt hole was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OFF
so far off there was no place to drill the bottom hole for the recoil pad
and mister smart mouth 345 YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING YOUR TALKING ABOUT YOU WERE NOT THERE
SO WHY DONT YOU JUST GO HI-JACK ANOTHER THREAD YOU MISTER ISIS SEEM TO BE GOOD AT IT

NO NEED TO TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT
I TOLD THE TRUTH

ITS RIGHT THERE UNDER CUSTOM METAL AND SYNTHENIC STOCKS
YOU AND ISS HIJACKED CHUCK NELSONS THREAD
WHEN I UN INTENTIONALLY HIJACKED A THREAD ISS CALLED ME DOWN LIKE I WAS A PIG
SAID I SHOULD KISS THE GUYS FEET
HAVE YOU GUYS KISSED NELSONS FEET
WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER
CHRIS STIFFED ME FOR ALL THOSE STOCKS AND A BUNCH MORE SO YOU DONTTTTTTTTTT KNOW HIM VERY GOOD
CALL EUBANKS AND ASK HIM ABOUT THE GARBAGE STOCKS HE SENT HIM

I posted some pics for ISS on that thread at his request. Chuck very diplomatically made mention of it and I removed it and any posts I had on it as It was taking the topic off subject. He was 100% correct.

Rich started up a new thread and asked me to post the pics there and I did.

I asked that any comments be referred to him when I posted the pics.

Couple of points on this whole mess.

1. Rich needs to learn to post his own pics.

2. I have not "hijacked" this thread.

3. You should try calming down before you type.

4. If anyone has got a question about Walnut Grove, call them, don't rely on what you read here. Ask direct questions about what you have read here and form your own opinions.

A very wise person once told me it takes two people to have an argument.

So........

I leave you with the famous words of Curly Bill; "bye"

NOW WERE GETTING SOMEWHERE
WALNUT GROVE CAME TO ME AND ASKED TO BORROW 12 GRAND TO BUY OUT GREAT AMERICAN GUNSTOCKS AFTER I GAVE HIM THE DETAILS ON THE SALE OF THAT COMPANY
HE KNEW NOTHING OF IT
I REFUSED TO LOAN HIM THE MONEY
HE TOLD ME A FEW DAYS LATER THAT HE GOT THE MONEY FROM YOU AND ISS
IF HES THE HONEST MAN YOU CLAIM THEN YOU AND ISS ARE FINANICALLY INVOLVED
SO NOW YOU DECIDE TO STICK YOUR CHEST OUT AND WALK AROUND CLAIMING TO BE A GUNSTOCK MAN
(PROBABLY FAMOUS )IVE SEEN IT 100 TIMES IN MY 45 YEARS IN THE INDUSTRY
I BET YOU OR ISS HAVE NEVER SPENT ONE DAY APPRENTICESHIP IN THE INDUSTRY
JUST OVER NIGHT
TOP DOG
THEN YOU DECIDE TO STOMP ON ANYONE LIKE MYSELF THAT APPRENTICIED UNDER SOME OF THE BEST
(ROBERTS GUNSTOCKS -- PACHMYER GUNSTOCKS - ANDY GARNER-LUCKY ZAUGG - KURT HAASE AND OTHERS
) I WORKED MANY HOURS AT $1.70 HOUR FOR ROBERTS AND WORKED MANY OVERTIME HOURS FOR FREE AND RAISED 3 KIDS ALL JUST LEARN AND THEN PHONYS DECIDE THEIR THE BIG DOGS IN THE INDUSTRY
YOUR TYPE IS EVERYWHERE IN THIS INDUSTRY
SO IT LOOKS TO ME IF YOU HIJACK A THREAD YOU MIGHT SELL MORE WOOD THEN MORE MONEY IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT
YOUR SUCH A SHARP GUNSTOCK MAN
WHY DONT YOU SHOW CHRIS HIS DUPLICATOR IS OUT OF ALIGNMENT
IT SHOWS RIGHT ON THOSE ENGLISH STOCKS HE MACHINED
THAT WHOLE OPERATION NEEDS TO QUIT DEFRAUDING THE PUBLIC

Chris is too diplomatic to call you a liar.

He has never allowed you any involvement in his business, from Day One.

Neither I or Shane have EVER had any business involvement with Chris other than to buy blanks from him and have him pantagraph them for us.

You are hijacking this thread. Please delete your posts and leave.

I would guess your experience in the industry, if you really have any, was as a janitor.

If I were financially involved with Walnut Grove Gunstocks I would have a lawyer print out your diatribe here and have your sorry ass in court by about Tuesday next week.

I am printing this out and forwarding it to Chris.

Damn I guess I will have to pull my "bye" back in.

I have never loaned any money to Chris or anyone else for that matter. I don't have any to spare! I worked hard for what I get from my retirement. I have a part time job to pay for my toys and occasional trips, not to finance companies.

I have bought or horse traded for maybe ten stocks from Chris. That is as close to financial involvement as I get.

I find him to be a honest and honorable man. That is my opinion.

You do not. That's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to express that.

I have never claimed to be a "gunstock man". I am not.

I do work on gunstocks, my own, and quite frankly I suck at it.

I do it because I enjoy it, mistakes and all. I have never claimed to be an expert.

When I want something nice done I send it to an expert. I pay what he asks and don't haggle over the price; he deserves every dollar he charges!

You need to take a deep breath and calm down before you have a heart attack. If you are mad at ISS take it out on him. not me!

Whole point of all of this is that people need to form their own opinions of a business. Don't go based just on what you read. Certainly use what you have read to ask direct questions of the representatives of a company you may or may not want to use.

Hope you have a good night

bye
(again)

does that make it a "bye-bye"?

I feel sad for this guy. I hope when I get old, I just fall over dead before this happens to me.

Obnoxious is much preferable to pathetic...

good night,

Rich

Try to enjoy the pictures and post opinions. I appreciate both.

I was contacted by a friend who told me that my name was being used in a thread.
I would like to assure anyone reading this that my dealings with Chris have always been professional and courteous.
I wish Chris and his family nothing but success. If you have questions about about Walnut Grove I would suggest you call Chris and visit with him.

G.Roger Eubanks
www.eubanksgunsmithing.com

Thank you Mr. Eubanks for taking the time to help set this straight.
______________________________________________

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Originally posted by Logger2:
NO NEED TO TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT
I TOLD THE TRUTH

ITS RIGHT THERE UNDER CUSTOM METAL AND SYNTHENIC STOCKS
YOU AND ISS HIJACKED CHUCK NELSONS THREAD
WHEN I UN INTENTIONALLY HIJACKED A THREAD ISS CALLED ME DOWN LIKE I WAS A PIG
SAID I SHOULD KISS THE GUYS FEET
HAVE YOU GUYS KISSED NELSONS FEET
WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER
CHRIS STIFFED ME FOR ALL THOSE STOCKS AND A BUNCH MORE SO YOU DONTTTTTTTTTT KNOW HIM VERY GOOD
CALL EUBANKS AND ASK HIM ABOUT THE GARBAGE STOCKS HE SENT HIM

On the bottom stock, is that a HUGE defect in the cheek piece, or is my PC just off? If it is, I hope you did not pay a huge sum for it.

both. There was a small inclusion there. Chris showed it to me while it was still on the pantagraph machine. After we took the pictures he picked it out with his knife and is in the process of filling it. You will have to know it is there to see it after he and Darrell are done with it.

And yes, there was a price adjustment. Chris goes to great pains to represent the blank(s) as honestly as he can.

Bet you wont be happy with the patch. Might consider removing the cheek piece.

+1 Assuming it doesn't go too deep.

about .150" deep is all. We are going to see.

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about .150" deep is all. We are going to see.

That is to the base of the void. I bet you a that while the void might not be there the flaw will continue to show deeper than .15"

But I've been wrong before.

Paul K,
You have indeed been WRONG in the past!!!

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the stocks have been drying in my shop area. Close to five months now, and still have not split, or checked, or warped, or shown any issues.

I was just looking at them a few minutes ago, hanging vertical on pegs.

If my barrels ever get here...