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Gunsmith: Duane Wiebe
Barrel: Ralf Martini
Engraver: Charles Lee
Wood: Luxus


















 
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No compliment I could post would add to that absolute masterpiece, on the finest action ever made and by two of the finest artists and gentlemen working today, Duane and Ralf. I would say "perfection", but, it is beyond even that......

Bring it to BC and shoot a Moose the size of a boxcar with it and maybe a good ram if the hunting gods are on your side....sometimes, they forget to smile on we poor mortal hunters!

Now, find a ZG-47 donnor and have a matching .338WM built to go with it!
 
Posts: 2366 | Location: "Land OF Shining Mountains"- British Columbia, Canada | Registered: 20 August 2006Reply With Quote
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OH my,thanks for the great pictures of such a wonderful project...all top shelf. What does your finished rifle weigh?
congrats to you and those involved!
 
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Now that is a rifle worth waiting a lifetime for. It is just beautiful!
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Damn nice, Mike. Fantastic rifle!
 
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Hmmm, Mike...that looks vaguely familiar to me.

It is a very handsome rifle. Needless to say, I like it a lot.


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Hmmm, Mike...that looks vaguely familiar to me.

It is a very handsome rifle. Needless to say, I like it a lot.



ForrestB,

I had a good teacher and I learn real fast.....the only thing different from your's is the blank. We can call it the FB#2.....it should make for a good coyote rifle!
 
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Wowww what a rifle !!!!

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Very nice! What action is that? How much does it way? I love the full rib!
 
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The action is a BRNO 21.

I don't know how much it weighs and we don't have any scales in the house. The rifle is currently in the care of FedEx.
 
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The rifle is currently in the care of FedEx

I'd be drinking or praying heavily right now, maybe both Smiler

That's the best looking Wiebe gun I've seen posted here IMO. I like different wood but that rifle is fabulous.


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Gorgeous...you are truly blessed!


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It just doesn't get any better than that!!! Workmanship beyond belief, the perfect caliber, WOW...I hope you're young, because that rifle deserves to be hunted with for years and years and years.
 
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Nice MHC-TX,..
makes me feel I should progress with my B21 receivers.
 
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Very nice.

Burgess rings?
 
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Yep, ForrestB had one built with that action a few years ago and I've been begging him for pictures of it since. Wink Beautiful rifle in every way. A nice rifle like that only adds to the pleasure of a good hunting trip.

Congrats to you and Duane.

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Gorgeous rifle Mike! Well done.


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Classic elegance. Whose rings? Burgess? Ragnar?
 
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I'm not sure "whose" rings Duane used....he will have to answer that one.


Something you can't see from the photos is: Ralf Martini built the barrel with "progressive twist" rifling.....the way I understand it is, the rifling gets tighter towards the muzzle end......in theory, it is suppost to give you higher velocity - we will see. The gun was regulated with Federal factory 140 grain Nosler Accubond bullets. Federal lists this load as having a MV=2950fps it will be interesting to see what these factory loads chronograph at from this rifle.
 
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Rings are detailed Talley
 
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M21 BRNO, Martini barrel, Wiebe gunmaker...the perfect embodiment of a medium caliber sporter.


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Rings are detailed Talley


Ah, that makes perfect sense.
 
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Thats a supernice rifle, no doubt about it!

What makes me a little curious is the floorplate and triggerguard. Theyre fine aswell, but did the 21 really come in that configuration or are they taken from a ZG 47?
 
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Is that the exact picture of the wood blank that was used? It looks different on the finished rifle than what I would expect. Both are very nice!
 
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Thats a supernice rifle, no doubt about it!

What makes me a little curious is the floorplate and triggerguard. Theyre fine aswell, but did the 21 really come in that configuration or are they taken from a ZG 47?



The bottom metal is the Fisher "rounded" floorplate
 
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Is that the exact picture of the wood blank that was used? It looks different on the finished rifle than what I would expect. Both are very nice!


Way back, the blanks were sold...well...call it "color enhanced"
 
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Very nice rifle!!!
It takes some big gonads to post a picture of checkering that close up... Wink
I enjoy seeing this type of barrel work also, but got a question. What is the width of the quarter rib at the rear sight? My inquiring mind would like to know...Thanks!

ENJOY!


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If Duane were to sculpt a woman, but had never seen one, I have no doubt the result would bear a striking resemblance to a young Elle Mcpherson.
 
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Duane has some of the nicest stock patterns out there and his finishing touches on the metal work are outstanding.

I keep telling myself I don't need one of his rifles, but I really do want one at some point.


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The FedEx man came through....rifle arrived today. Pictures really don't do it justice and it handles like a little wand. I will try and take some pictures of the wood in natural light. I did find some luggage scales, so I will weigh it with and without the scope.....I don't know what it weighs, but it balances so well. I think it probably feels lighter than it really is. I will also measure the width of the q-rib and post that later. Hopefully, the rain will pause long enough (we are getting some of Alex down here) so I can get it to the range.
 
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Originally posted by asti:
Thats a supernice rifle, no doubt about it!

What makes me a little curious is the floorplate and triggerguard. Theyre fine aswell, but did the 21 really come in that configuration or are they taken from a ZG 47?



The bottom metal is the Fisher "rounded" floorplate

I see, at a closer look I notice that the triggerguard doesnt have the same shape as the ZG does. My bad...
However, the rifle is beautiful!
 
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Hi Mike,

Fantasic rifle!

Always thought those little Brno 21s make a great platform for a custom and after seeing yours and ForrestB's certain about that...

Thanks for sharing and looking forward to more pics and specs on your rifle.

Best,

Jim
 
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I weighed the rifle on some luggage scales and with scope it weighs ~7-1/2 pounds. That is the best I can do with these scales.


Editorial Comment: Duane thought my scales might be weighing on the light side and the gun weight with scope might be closer to 8-1/2 pounds - he said, he did not weigh it either (before sending it out)......the bottom line is, it settles down real quick for offhand shooting and I don't think it would be a burden to carry up a mountain. Sorry I can't be more exact.
 
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Now that's great work! I would like to see what the other side of the stock looks like finisned.


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What is the width of the quarter rib at the rear sight? My inquiring mind would like to know...Thanks!



The q-rib is 1/2" wide right behind the rear sight.
 
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It seems a shame that those BRNO 21 actions are not readily available and easily affordable.

Whats next for you MHC?


I just bought one, 8x57 IS, fullstock, ZG-safety and "squarebridge", just like MHC:s.
In pristine condition, I paid about 600 dollars for it. But thats here in Sweden, and old qualityrifles have just now started to go up in price.
Anyway, I thought it was a steal, so I couldnt resist... Wink
Sorry for OT, MHC!
 
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After all the preceeding positive replies and all well justified as I have to emphasize ,
I risk outing one minor point of criticisme concerning style
( at least in my eyes).
Mixing the style elements of continental rifle building (octagonal to round barrel) and a British Stock design is a good idea. But it is unavoidable to find a harmonic compromise.
IMHO the octagonal part of the barrel is slihghtly too long or the forearm of the stock slightly too short.
My eyes are used to see the tip of the forearm ending where the octagonal part of the barrel ends.
 
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After all the preceeding positive replies and all well justified as I have to emphasize ,
I risk outing one minor point of criticisme concerning style
( at least in my eyes).
Mixing the style elements of continental rifle building (octagonal to round barrel) and a British Stock design is a good idea. But it is unavoidable to find a harmonic compromise.
IMHO the octagonal part of the barrel is slihghtly too long or the forearm of the stock slightly too short.
My eyes are used to see the tip of the forearm ending where the octagonal part of the barrel ends.


heavenknows,

I understand what you are saying - here are some other examples of that transition point (octagon-to-round). On this "light rifle", I wouldn't change a thing, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't or shouldn't.

However, on a heavier barrel or big bore rifle, I would probably want the transition point moved back closer to the forearm tip. I also like the transition closer to the forearm tip on single-shots.

Examples of octagon-to-round transition points (all of these were built by Ralf Martini):














 
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My preference is for the transition between octagon and round to be just ahead of the foreend, like in the last photo.

Some of the older guns have a lot more octagon showing and I don't really like that. When the foreend extends beyond the octagon, it really looks funny to me.

Different strokes for different folks. The good thing is that when you're the paying customer you can get exactly what you want.


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My preference is for the transition between octagon and round to be just ahead of the foreend, like in the last photo.

Some of the older guns have a lot more octagon showing and I don't really like that. When the foreend extends beyond the octagon, it really looks funny to me.

Different strokes for different folks. The good thing is that when you're the paying customer you can get exactly what you want.



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