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08 November 2010, 09:30
HowardTasteless Custom
Is it just me or does this Dakota 10 have tasteless and ugly engraving?
Howard
Moses Lake, Washington USA
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08 November 2010, 09:41
458WinChoices in engraving patterns and execution is like choices in women (or men) There is no accounting for individual tastes.
It would not be my choice but It's not bad and I've seen a lot worse - and a lot better
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com 08 November 2010, 15:40
D99What's tasteless about it?
When I saw the post I thought this was going to be a thumbhole stocked Weatherby Mark V, with some serious 1950's Weatherby engraving on it.
That's the typical subject of ridicule on these boards by folks who believe that one type of engraving or rifle is better than another.
I am not an engraver, and like Phil said this isn't my idea of beautiful, but who are you to question someones idea of asthetics?
08 November 2010, 15:45
TC1Reminds me of what you find on a CZ SXS. Cartoonish,
Terry
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08 November 2010, 15:48
500NThe Gold inlay is what kills it.
The pattern wouldn't be so bad by itself on the Case Coloured metal
but as the above says, it detract from it.
08 November 2010, 17:52
J.D.Steelequote:
Originally posted by 500N:
The Gold inlay is what kills it.
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Yep. Contrasting-color inlays are fine for borders but when used in the body of the pattern then, like stock carving, many of them detract rather than add.
Regards, Joe
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08 November 2010, 17:56
clowdisYep, I think the engraving is fine but the gold doesn't do it any favors.
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08 November 2010, 19:07
Jerry Lilesit's not terrible but I don't find it particularly attractive. The rifle would look better without, but that's my opinion. However it isn't a total loss. It can always serve as a bad example.
Jerry Liles
09 November 2010, 04:46
butchlocwell i don't like it,m but if it fits someones taste, so be it
09 November 2010, 05:01
bigdoggy700I think it looks pretty good. I can make a home for it if someone is throwing it out. No problem
09 November 2010, 08:19
craigsterLooks a bit "neon" to me, but it's not my rifle.
09 November 2010, 08:48
Captain FinlanderI agree. It is busy and not very pleasing to the eye!
Captain Finlander
09 November 2010, 10:10
Michael RobinsonIt would not be my first choice, or even my second or twelfth, but it's far from tasteless or ugly.
JMHO, of course.
Mike
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09 November 2010, 11:17
JBrownThere is no doubt(in my mind) that the engraving detracts from the the rifle. In other words it would look better if the engraving had not been done.
So yes Howard, it is ugly. But that is JMHO.
But I have never seen gold pin-striping that I though looked even remotely good.
Jason
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09 November 2010, 11:19
cmfic1Yikes.....
I would love to have Dakota #10 someday, but I wouldnt dump the money involved on one in 22-250, nor would I consider one that had that shitty looking inlay done.
I'd almost rather own a Browning
That inlay almost looks photo-shopped
Rod
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09 November 2010, 11:21
ForrestBBeauty is in the eye of the beholder.
The rectangular gold border on the trapezoidal sidewall is somewhat unsettling to the eye.
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09 November 2010, 12:43
Idaho SharpshooterEngraving should "flow" from one end to the other and back. This just looks disjointed to me.
Rich
11 November 2010, 17:08
Lord FrithI appreciate almost any engraving. However, this style looks like left over spagetti on a plate. Gold should be for borders and minimally at that. I feel guilty bashing the work as I could not file, let alone cut, a straight line on steel. I feel better now.
Stephen
12 November 2010, 02:56
BigUglyManThere's room for imporvement. I'm not a fan of gold inlay. Or game scenes.
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12 November 2010, 03:09
Austin HunterI think it's terrible and drops the gun's value to zero.
Please send the gun to me. I will keep it so you can have a clear conscience.
PS: I will pay for the shipping and handling
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12 November 2010, 03:17
RaySenderoWell...Guess if I can't say something nice about it - _____________________
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12 November 2010, 23:15
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by RaySendero:
Well...Guess if I can't say something nice about it - _____________________
Many people seem to agree with this statement regarding styling on custom rifles, even when we are discussing very general/generic concepts such as simple Vs. complex checkering patterns.
Unfortunately if only the people with positive comments post, the discussion is worthless.
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
13 November 2010, 03:38
J.D.SteeleFor an idea of what a Dakoto 10 CAN look like, please see Steve Hughes' book Custom Rifles in Black and White. Please note the new lever, IMO it turns a sow's ear into a silk purse.
Regards, Joe
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13 November 2010, 03:48
Scotch Bonnetquote:
Originally posted by Howard:
Is it just me or does this Dakota 10 have tasteless and ugly engraving?
Howard, is this all you can do is bellyache?
Give it a rest and find something to praise. It just might make you into a tolerable person!
13 November 2010, 04:13
SamIs it "Bling"? I don't find it as offensive as some do but I wouldn't order it that way.
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13 November 2010, 20:37
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by Scotch Bonnet:
Howard, is this all you can do is bellyache?
Give it a rest and find something to praise. It just might make you into a tolerable person!
Howard
It must be nice know that you have fans following your every post.
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
13 November 2010, 22:47
Bill/OregonI spell tasteless W-e-a-t-h-e-r-b-y ...
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14 November 2010, 00:07
Howardquote:
Originally posted by Scotch Bonnet:
quote:
Originally posted by Howard:
Is it just me or does this Dakota 10 have tasteless and ugly engraving?
Howard, is this all you can do is bellyache?
Give it a rest and find something to praise. It just might make you into a tolerable person!
Dear Mr Scotch, it is like buying a corvette then putting cheap tires on it. There are some things that just aren't done in good taste. You don't take a high end expensive single shot then use it to practice gold inlay on. Would you prefer I use the term poor judgment then poor taste?
I am sorry you find me intolerable but impressed I mean enough for you to give me a few words of your wisdom.
BTW my friends and family enjoy my company.
Scotch I did a quick search of your 25 posts. The majority of them seem to involve you complaining or ridiculing something.
Howard
Moses Lake, Washington USA
hwhomes@outlook.com
14 November 2010, 20:01
Jim Kobequote:
Originally posted by Howard:
quote:
Originally posted by Scotch Bonnet:
quote:
Originally posted by Howard:
Is it just me or does this Dakota 10 have tasteless and ugly engraving?
Howard, is this all you can do is bellyache?
Give it a rest and find something to praise. It just might make you into a tolerable person!
Dear Mr Scotch, it is like buying a corvette then putting cheap tires on it. There are some things that just aren't done in good taste. You don't take a high end expensive single shot then use it to practice gold inlay on. Would you prefer I use the term poor judgment then poor taste?
I am sorry you find me intolerable but impressed I mean enough for you to give me a few words of your wisdom.
BTW my friends and family enjoy my company.
Scotch I did a quick search of your 25 posts. The majority of them seem to involve you complaining or ridiculing something.
I'd be willing to bet it's 22WRF using a different name.
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15 November 2010, 22:54
22WRFI'll take that bet Kobe!
Put your money where your mouth is.
Besides, I think Howard is a good guy. Outstanding father to his kids as well!!!
16 November 2010, 00:11
458WinThe more I look at that engraving the more it grows on me. Considering the caliber maybe the engraving pattern represents the impact the 22/250 bullet has on what it hits.
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
Phil Shoemaker
Alaska Master guide
FAA Master pilot
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www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com 16 November 2010, 02:42
Boss HossI feel the same way about gold engraving on a firearm that General George S Patton felt about Pearl Handled Revolvers..
16 November 2010, 05:02
FMCWhy all the complaining. It goes well with machined/integral sights, barrel bands & quarter ribs, etc etc etc y'all like...... he he he
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24 November 2010, 22:12
Henry BuckNot my choice...but I'm sure someone is absolutely tickled with it!
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26 November 2010, 06:40
FjoldIt wouldn't be my choice if I was aying for the engraving nut if it was like that and I got a deal on buying the rifle I wouldn't be shy aabout being seen with it.
Frank
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