Does anyone here own or have experience with A-Square rifles? i was really wanting one a while back but changed my mind after reading quite a bit of negative reports on them. also i was wanting the .577 T-Rex but as i learned more about the .600 OK i found that i liked it way more than the .577 T-Rex and on top of that i couldn't find .577 T-Rex ammo anywhere at all. But i still have some interest and intrigue in the Hannible rifle and like one of the rifles in a pic A-Square sent me. I know a lot of people hate the looks of the Hannible rifle but i actually like the looks of it, especially one in the pic that was dark walnut with light maple fore-end and crossbolt caps. it just really appeals to me and reminds me of something made in the 1960s or early 70s. but i've watched videos of people shooting Hannible rifles and in most of them it looks like they have trouble closing the bolts on them and a sticky bolt on a DG rifle is a very bad thing and to me something like that on any rifle, especially one about $5,000 is bad. does anyone here know anything about problems like this or anything else with these rifles? also i wonder if .577 T-Rex ammo will ever become more available. i do like the .500 A-Square cartridge though if i ever actually bought a rifle from them. i'm really weary of getting one though but the idea still kind of stays in the back of my mind. if i ever do decide to get one of their rifle it would only be after i get the 2 rifles i'm getting AHR to build for me.

Pez, despite their awkward appearance, I had a soft spot for A-Square rifles for some time, and had 6-8 of them over time. They handle recoil better than any other big-bore rifle I've ever fired. But that said, I would steer clear of A-Square. Their continuation in business is iffy, and any proprietary caliber they make may become a boat anchor if the brass can't be readily made from some other parent case. Try to find brass for 300 Pegasus or 577 T-Rex now...non-existant. The 500 A-Square can be easily made from 460 Wby brass, so you'd be safe there. Stay with Wayne at AHR...a 600 OK is a better cartridge anyway....750gr bullets aren't meant to go 2,500 fps with a human standing behind them!

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Originally posted by Biebs:
....750gr bullets aren't meant to go 2,500 fps with a human standing behind them!

From what CTG???!!?? Top loads in the 600 OK are 900gr@2400fps. I strongly suspect "crayola-tips" that are a mere 750gr will beat 2500fps easily. I have been told from a reliable source the 750 crayola tips can be pushed comfortably past 2700........

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Originally posted by Biebs:
Pez, despite their awkward appearance, I had a soft spot for A-Square rifles for some time, and had 6-8 of them over time. They handle recoil better than any other big-bore rifle I've ever fired. But that said, I would steer clear of A-Square. Their continuation in business is iffy, and any proprietary caliber they make may become a boat anchor if the brass can't be readily made from some other parent case. Try to find brass for 300 Pegasus or 577 T-Rex now...non-existant. The 500 A-Square can be easily made from 460 Wby brass, so you'd be safe there. Stay with Wayne at AHR...a 600 OK is a better cartridge anyway....750gr bullets aren't meant to go 2,500 fps with a human standing behind them!

thanks for the info Biebs! If i ever get an A-Square rifle and that's a big if because i am very unsure about them i would most likely get it chambered in .500 A-Square or maybe .470 Capstick. the .500 A-Square is probably one of my favorites big bore cartridges. i think i've read that besides it being very powerful that it was a well designed cartridge and easy to get to feed well through most rifles.

I had 450 Watts Magnum Hannibal. It was a boat. Not just in its size, but also because my two happiest days with it were when I ordered it, and then when I sold it.

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I had 450 Watts Magnum Hannibal. It was a boat. Not just in its size, but also because my two happiest days with it were when I ordered it, and then when I sold it.

besides it's size, were there other things you didn't like about the rifle?

It was plain clunky.

I love the Enfield based guns. A 30 or 720 is a fantastic platform, and the Enfield cut down is just that.

But, this thing looked really amateur in fit and finish. And, it was really... well... clunky. Cock on close probably turned me off a bit as well.

Keep in mind, this thing didn't have great sights, it didn't have a non-original safety nor bottom metal. The only things that didn't seem 'still military' were the barrel and stock. And neither of those seemed very nicely done. It should have been priced at $900, not $3500.

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Originally posted by Biebs:
Pez, despite their awkward appearance, I had a soft spot for A-Square rifles for some time, and had 6-8 of them over time. They handle recoil better than any other big-bore rifle I've ever fired. But that said, I would steer clear of A-Square. Their continuation in business is iffy, and any proprietary caliber they make may become a boat anchor if the brass can't be readily made from some other parent case. Try to find brass for 300 Pegasus or 577 T-Rex now...non-existant. The 500 A-Square can be easily made from 460 Wby brass, so you'd be safe there. Stay with Wayne at AHR...a 600 OK is a better cartridge anyway....750gr bullets aren't meant to go 2,500 fps with a human standing behind them!

just read the other day that A-Square is out of business and probably won't ever open up again. i still like the looks of the rifle with dark walnut stock and light colored maple forend and crossbolt caps but i'm sure i could some other custom builder to build a rifle like that for me when and if i ever want to get one.

My go-to buff rifle is my Hannibal in 458 Lott. It really puts the hurt on them.

I got it out of an Estate sale a few years back and it has the Enfield action. Yes, the stock is chunky. But so is my M1 Garand. Not much of a problem.

I think what is said about this stock being designed to mitigate recoil is true. I know many people consider the Lott to be a hard recoiling round, but to me it's not all that bad with this particular rifle.

Main drawback was having to have some custom scope ring bases machined to fit the receiver. AA was nowhere to be found.

Pez, MPI made (or makes?) an A-Square Coil-Chek stock in synthetic. If you found an Enfield or Rem 30S action, you could have a gunsmith create an A-Square look-alike.

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Pez, MPI made (or makes?) an A-Square Coil-Chek stock in synthetic. If you found an Enfield or Rem 30S action, you could have a gunsmith create an A-Square look-alike.

thanks very much Biebs! i'd never heard of them before but i emailed after reading your post and they told me they made Hannibal stocks in synthetic, as blanks or custom restock jobs.

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Originally posted by 415sbaird:
My go-to buff rifle is my Hannibal in 458 Lott. It really puts the hurt on them.

I got it out of an Estate sale a few years back and it has the Enfield action. Yes, the stock is chunky. But so is my M1 Garand. Not much of a problem.

I think what is said about this stock being designed to mitigate recoil is true. I know many people consider the Lott to be a hard recoiling round, but to me it's not all that bad with this particular rifle.

Main drawback was having to have some custom scope ring bases machined to fit the receiver. AA was nowhere to be found.

sounds great. if i can somehow get aHannnibal rifle made up for me it will be in either .458 Lott, .470 Capstick, .500 A-Square or .500 Jeffery.

500 A-Square is an easy big bore caliber...easy neck up of readily available 460 Wby brass. I had one in an A-Square rifle, which Bigdoggy2bore owns now.

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Originally posted by Biebs:
500 A-Square is an easy big bore caliber...easy neck up of readily available 460 Wby brass. I had one in an A-Square rifle, which Bigdoggy2bore owns now.

do you think the .500 Jeffery would work good in a Enfield action? i ask because i've read all these stories about how hard it is to get an action to work well with the .500 Jeffery. fo course the .500 A-Square is fine with me but i like the .500 Jeffery a lot too and want somekind of rifle in .500 Jeffery. i might get a CZ in .500 Jeffery.

I'm not a fan of rebated rims, especially on a DGR.

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Originally posted by Biebs:
I'm not a fan of rebated rims, especially on a DGR.

i understand they could present a problem in the field but i'll probably never hunt dangerous game with this rifle. it's just a shooter/collector thing for me mostly.