All my guns built around Mauser 98. Now I was offered to built light, easy to carry long shooting rifle on Savage action. I have no clue whats the difference and what this action is all about. How it is better then Remington which I never use for custom rifle. Any thoughts?
Russian

I don't think the Savage is better than the Remington 700. The Savage does have the option of easily changed barrels though. Personally that is not an advantage to me. I would rather to just have a second rifle.

There are no savage rifles in my home.....and for a long laundry list of reasons previously posted here.....nor is it likely there ever will be.

except for my father's M-99 that is...it has a home here forever.....and of course....not because it's such a fine rifle......accuracy is only one of the requirements of a fine rifle!

I've had very good experience with Remington, Winchester, Mauser, Sako and a few others and can live with those choices

IMO the Savage and Remington actions are about equal in accuracy potential, i.e., far far superior to any Mauser for accuracy. For confirmation of this opinion, check the winners of local matches.

Also both rifles have issues with their triggers. The Remington is supposedly unsafe while the Savage is supposedly so Mickey-Mouse that it's impossible to adjust properly. I disagree with this. I have shot, adjusted and accurized both rifles fairly extensively and found no basis for either of these criticisms. Both have performed superbly for me since the middle '60s. IMO it's a case of operator error, in BOTH cases.

However I personally would not choose a Savage, because of its looks and the fact that very few accessories are available for it. IMO the Savage is IMPOSSIBLE TO BEAT for its off-the-shelf accuracy-to-price ratio but at the same time there's not a lotta braggin' rights for a Savage's looks (grin).

IOW if I wanted the most accuracy for the money then I'd go for the Savage in a heartbeat, but if I wanted to have braggin' rights then Savage would be well down the list.

BTW nowadays I own neither a Savage nor a Remington rifle, and have no plans to buy either one. JMOFWIW.
Regards, Joe

The Savage has all the things mentioned above plus one: it is a little heavy for a "light walking around" rifle. Not terribly so but measurable. But for simplicity and ease of repair it is like a Lego set.

But what the best action to built light weight 100 yards and relatively easy to carry rifle?
Have you heard of Gunwerks www.gunwerks.com ?

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Originally posted by Russian:
But what the best action to built light weight 100 yards and relatively easy to carry rifle?
Have you heard of Gunwerks www.gunwerks.com ?

That site doesn't look very lightweight or 100-yardish, at least not to me!(grin)

If you feel like you just gotta have a repeater then there are several Titanium bolt-rifle offerings out there, with plenty of accuracy for 100-yd shooting.

Maybe the '100 yds' was a misprint?
Regards, Joe

I mean 1000 yards, my fault

Savage rifles, and their target actions, have had noted success at long range. As mentioned, a look at what people are shooting, say in F-Class, would reveal what is working out there. That doesn't address the weight factor, however.

Aside, it looks like Savage makes it easier to get into competition and/or long range shooting with an across-the-counter purchase.

Russian that action that Gunwerks uses is a clone of the Remington 700.

One thing to consider is action length. If you are looking at a short action for something like a 6.5/284, the Remington will be a little lighter. They produce a truer short action than Savage. Savage's short action would be better described as a medium length action. In long action form both makes are close is size.

All of the custom actions that I know of for benchrest are Remington clones, or near clones (Kelby, Stolle, BAT, Holland, Pierce, Lawton, Haverkamp, Surgeon, Stiller, Borden, to name a few).

The advice above is very sound. Savage is more economical, but less attractive with a smaller aftermarket. Remington (and clones) has a better aftermarket, and have clean lines for looks. Both will shoot sub-MOA if put together correctly.

Jeremy

Guys, nobody mentioned Dakota rifles. What do you know about this action? Is it a simplified Mauser or what is that?

Dakota actions are similar to the Model 70 Winchester.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx...uct/DAKOTA-76-ACTION