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Checkering..a step back in time
06 January 2018, 02:16
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)Checkering..a step back in time
Photos by client..this rifle goes back some years. 300 Rum on post 64M-70 skeleton butt and grip cap Thought you guys might get a glimpse at about as fancy as I've done.. The rifle is in a Huey presentation case and will be offered or sle...PM me if you want to be put in touch with owner.
06 January 2018, 02:18
Chief EngineerExceptional!
06 January 2018, 02:54
butchlambertIncredible!
06 January 2018, 02:55
setters5A 300 RUM with a skeleton butt plate doesn't sound like much fun!
06 January 2018, 03:33
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)Wouldn't mind seeing some other suicidal checkering patterns
06 January 2018, 03:59
swampshooterFabulous a real show piece.
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06 January 2018, 06:39
FjoldHow do you have the patience to do that?
If I drink enough to feel relaxed enough to do that, I'm too drunk to do it.
Frank
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06 January 2018, 20:00
Charles_HelmJust spectacular.
06 January 2018, 21:03
nopride2Wow!
Dave
06 January 2018, 21:17
Ole Miss GuyThat is exactly the way I would have done it!
06 January 2018, 22:11
AnotherAZWriterquote:
Originally posted by Ole Miss Guy:
That is exactly the way I would have done it!
Me too...if I could. But I can't.
06 January 2018, 22:32
bwanamrmFleur de Lis to ribbon to fleur de lis outlined... pretty special.
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06 January 2018, 23:17
Eagle DadWow... very impressive
Thanks for sharing
07 January 2018, 03:10
Phil McFallDuane
Very impressive pattern. Do you suppose you could show a picture of the top of the grip?
Thanks
Phil
07 January 2018, 03:17
metalIt's a work of art, no doubt about it.
Top job!
07 January 2018, 03:25
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)quote:
Originally posted by Phil McFall:
Duane
Very impressive pattern. Do you suppose you could show a picture of the top of the grip?
Thanks
Phil
Rifle is not in my possession. I have no shot of top, but I think I put a fluer de lis there too
07 January 2018, 04:33
swampshooterI fear that with demand for good checkering being so slim that soon it will become a lost art. This is an example of a true artist though. Absolutely beautiful.
velocity is like a new car, always losing value.
BC is like diamonds, holding value forever.
07 January 2018, 06:30
Mike_TXThat is spectacular.....kind of like a hooker in church......just keep looking at it.
What really catches my eye is that octagon-to-round barrel with the full length rib.....I also wish you had a full length photo.
07 January 2018, 17:10
LesBrooksDuane,
That is the finest design and is so complicated with the ribbons that make it stand out. I would like to ask if my eyes are seeing correctly. Is there a mix of 28 lines and 22 lines in several different panels?
I can see several days of work involved in the layout and checkering. Cost would be over $1,000 if I had to cut a similar pattern.
Get your tools ready as someone will be wanting you to make another matching stock. I believe that is the best example of art in stock making that has been posted on the AR Forum.
Les Brooks
07 January 2018, 18:48
butchlambertLes, you're showing your age. I don't think $2,000 would cover it. Yeah, I'm probably older than you.
Will you be at the Shilen Swap Meet this Spring?
07 January 2018, 20:01
lindy2Mr. Wiebe
Have you catalogued all of the guns you have made over the years so they could be studied in the future from artistic point of view?
An example of what I mean is the book Living on the Edge, Logos of the Loveless Legend. A book that documents the artistic or should I say stylistic details of Mr. Loveless's knives over his career.
I think it would be so interesting to have a book showing your earliest work and progressing to later work, including your most artistic work such as the piece you show here.
It looks like there was some other beautiful work done on the rifle. Who got their hands on it to scratch up the metal after you got done scratching up the wood?
07 January 2018, 20:10
butchlambertMaybe you could arrange funding for the project.
07 January 2018, 21:09
Mike_TXquote:
Originally posted by lindy2:
Mr. Wiebe
Have you catalogued all of the guns you have made over the years so they could be studied in the future from artistic point of view?
An example of what I mean is the book Living on the Edge, Logos of the Loveless Legend. A book that documents the artistic or should I say stylistic details of Mr. Loveless's knives over his career.
I think it would be so interesting to have a book showing your earliest work and progressing to later work, including your most artistic work such as the piece you show here.
It looks like there was some other beautiful work done on the rifle. Who got their hands on it to scratch up the metal after you got done scratching up the wood?
Duane is a "custom" rifle builder.....if you want lighting bolts on your rifle then so be it.....and they will be well executed! I think your proposed book would only be a reflection of what the customers were wanting/ordering.
07 January 2018, 21:41
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)quote:
Originally posted by LesBrooks:
Duane,
That is the finest design and is so complicated with the ribbons that make it stand out. I would like to ask if my eyes are seeing correctly. Is there a mix of 28 lines and 22 lines in several different panels?
I can see several days of work involved in the layout and checkering. Cost would be over $1,000 if I had to cut a similar pattern.
Get your tools ready as someone will be wanting you to make another matching stock. I believe that is the best example of art in stock making that has been posted on the AR Forum.
Les Brooks
Hi Les Bingo:..you're the first to note the different line spacing. Cost...No way in would I'd be tempted at 2000.00. Fact is, I did that pattern only twice...good place to stop
07 January 2018, 21:44
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)Lindy: Frankly, I'd like to buy back some of that early work so I could start a bonfire..HAR!
07 January 2018, 23:26
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)quote:
Originally posted by Mike_TX:
quote:
Originally posted by lindy2:
Mr. Wiebe
Have you catalogued all of the guns you have made over the years so they could be studied in the future from artistic point of view?
An example of what I mean is the book Living on the Edge, Logos of the Loveless Legend. A book that documents the artistic or should I say stylistic details of Mr. Loveless's knives over his career.
I think it would be so interesting to have a book showing your earliest work and progressing to later work, including your most artistic work such as the piece you show here.
It looks like there was some other beautiful work done on the rifle. Who got their hands on it to scratch up the metal after you got done scratching up the wood?
Duane is a "custom" rifle builder.....if you want lighting bolts on your rifle then so be it.....and they will be well executed! I think your proposed book would only be a reflection of what the customers were wanting/ordering.
No, I draw the line at lightening bolts and blue plastic humming birds
08 January 2018, 01:45
Lee BaumgartWOW! I don't recall ever seeing checkering as impressive as this. As always Duane, thank you for sharing.
Lee
08 January 2018, 02:19
lindy2quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Lindy: Frankly, I'd like to buy back some of that early work so I could start a bonfire..HAR!
Well, I have read some writings by Jim Carmichel and others who would maybe differ a little bit with that statement.
I am looking at page 314 of Jim's book entitled The Modern Rifle, and it has a small photo of a rifle done by you that has checkering that is very similar if not almost the same to the checkering on the rifle that you show here.
To quote Mr. Carmichael, "Detail of an almost unbelievably perfect and beautiful checkering pattern done for me by Duane Wiebe on a Model 70 rebarreled to 7mm Remington Magnum. This is one of the most difficult checkering patterns imaginable and could be handled by very few stockmakers. The checkering is 32 lines per inch"
The book is copywrited 1975 - 43 years ago!! I bet that checkering pattern went for well under $500 at the time!
And from having met you I have a feeling that you have drawn the line at more than "lightning bolts and blue plastic humming birds".
08 January 2018, 02:51
AnotherAZWriterquote:
Originally posted by lindy2:
quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Lindy: Frankly, I'd like to buy back some of that early work so I could start a bonfire..HAR!
Well, I have read some writings by Jim Carmichel and others who would maybe differ a little bit with that statement.
I am looking at page 314 of Jim's book entitled The Modern Rifle, and it has a small photo of a rifle done by you that has checkering that is very similar if not almost the same to the checkering on the rifle that you show here.
To quote Mr. Carmichael, "Detail of an almost unbelievably perfect and beautiful checkering pattern done for me by Duane Wiebe on a Model 70 rebarreled to 7mm Remington Magnum. This is one of the most difficult checkering patterns imaginable and could be handled by very few stockmakers. The checkering is 32 lines per inch"
The book is copywrited 1975 - 43 years ago!! I bet that checkering pattern went for well under $500 at the time!
And from having met you I have a feeling that you have drawn the line at more than "lightning bolts and blue plastic humming birds".
I have that book; Carmichel mentions a lot of great stockmakers: Goens, Hartley, Goudy, etc.
Another line from that book:
"Just how much more elaborate checkering patterns may become is hard to say. Until a few years ago I thought they had gone about as far as they could go. But then Duane Wiebe arrived on the scene with his incredible layouts and suddenly it was a whole new ballgame."
08 January 2018, 10:57
Ray BThat is some REALLY nice scratching!!