guys i need help i want to buy a belted 338 magnum for long range big game hunting.
jarrett want 16000 usd for his longranger in his 338 jarrett,the other gun is a david miller 340 weatherby
this gun is build on a hartmann weiss magnum action

Um, Miller.

did you mean to say two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars?

If I'm not mistaken, D'Arcy Echols has a pre-owned .338 Win mag or .340 Weatherby Legend for sale (don't recall which) that I would personally prefer over either.

He can be reached at: Echolslegend@comcast.net

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Originally posted by Woodhits:
If I'm not mistaken, D'Arcy Echols has a pre-owned .338 Win mag or .340 Weatherby Legend for sale (don't recall which) that I would personally prefer over either.

He can be reached at: Echolslegend@comcast.net

I agree.

I like millers stuff,but

http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100429274

Hell of a gun and buy a nice elk hunt and a s. African or Namibian plains game hunt...for the same money...

Ed

Of those two, I would pick the Miller hands down.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
did you mean to say two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars?[/QUOTE

yes sir.
its made on hartmann und weiss m98 magnum action
engraved by alain lovenberg of belgium
its new,it gives a 3 to 4 inch group at 800 yards.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Woodhits:
If I'm not mistaken, D'Arcy Echols has a pre-owned .338 Win mag or .340 Weatherby Legend for sale (don't recall which) that I would personally prefer over either.

He can be reached at: Echolslegend@comcast.net[/QUOT

how is echols rifles compared to david millers?

I have no firsthand knowledge of Miller's guns but I know that they have a fine reputation and have enjoyed Turpin's book on them.

As for D'Arcy's guns, I've spent a decent number of days in his shop and am very familiar with his operation. He is the most meticulous, detail-obessessed, and perfection-driven human being that I know. His commitment to serving his customers is second-to-none and he stands behind his products.

I have an Echols Legend ordered as my "go everywhere and kill everything" gun because I know that it will A) function, and B) be accurate. If you are looking at guns in that price range, I would give D'Arcy a call.

Contact McWhorter and have them build a 338 RUM for you for about $5K. You will get a super accurate rifle that has load development already done. I had one with a titanium action that I should have kept. My long range elk gun now is an Ed Brown 340 I bought for about $2800. I can't imagine anything much better for a long range hammer. They are out there. Good luck finding what you want.

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
did you mean to say two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars?

Wondering the same thing. Either too many zeros or someone is smoking their lunch.

I have owned or have 8 different Millers.
The one you describe sounds off to me for some reason. I would need to see pictures.
I will be selling one of my original marksman shortly, if you are interested.
300wby though.
I would not even look at a Jarrett.
If the Miller is legit, I would pay the extra money.

Miller by 2 lengths

I currently have a 338 Jarrett. It is by far the most accurate 338 I have ever owned. The cartridge is a blown out 8mm Remington Magnum case with a fairly short neck and has considerably more capacity than the 340 Weatherby. It does not have the Weatherby free bore. I have owned 340 Weatherby rifles and much prefer the Jarrett cartridge.

215,000 thousand for a rifle !
No matter how wealthy you are that's like burning money ,it cant possibly be that good , But its you money ,
...tj3006

I admit, I look like a dumbass.
For some reason my brain saw 21,500.
Not sure about the Hartman Weiss part.
I have only known David to use Winchester, or Weatherby actions

Yep I saw 21500 too...Let me Amend my post

I like millers stuff,but

http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100429274

Hell of a gun and buy a nice elk hunt, 21 day safari for Lion, leopard, and Buffalo in Tanz,and finish off with a elephant hunt in Namibia. That should eat up 215,000...and money better spent...

Ed

DRSS Member

Depends on what long range hunting is to you?

Long range starts at 800 yards... if you are shooting at those distances, you need a dedicated rifle.
- A dedicated scope with good adjustments.
- A stock that with adjustable comb and buttplate

And I would look at the 338 Lapua Magnum. Atleast you get good brass, and maybe even find loaded ammunition in a store.


Even, look at a Accuracy International AXMC in 338LM. Its purpose built for long range shooting, laying in prone. Which is what you need to do.

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this gun is build on a hartmann weiss magnum action,its engraved by alain lovenberg,price is 215000 usd

Wow!

My response is: I don't know.

If I used any mentioned it would be Mr. Echols.

thank you soo much guys,thanks all of you for your kind help.
i will go for a new jarrett 338 magnum on his own trilock action,i dont like free bore of weatherbys,i have 3 crown customs in 378,300 and 460.
once again thank you all

I wonder if D'Arcy Echols and David Miller can build a 340 Wby without Freebore? Laughing.

You know they can Chuck. Just need to start your loads lower and work them up.

Miller, I wouldn't own a Jarrett rifle.

If you have $215K to drop on a rifle then you can, and should, buy whichever the hell one you want. Don't compromise! If the Miller floats your boat because of aesthetics or some other reason, then by all means get it!

But if you are hesitant at all, the thrifty pragmatist in me says that you should get something that will do the job just as well for a heck of a lot less, leaving plenty of money left over for other "stuff"...

Take it for what it's worth: Internet advice from a total stranger... but then you asked for it.

Miller is in a group of very few select makers in the world that can charge whatever he wants.

I believe you can get a much better rifle from Echols for a lot less money. I never cared for the Jarretts and the Millers are just over the top. Yes, that is my opinion and yours may be different.

I dont see the value in it.. One could get an equal rifle built by dozens of smiths around the country, for half the price!

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Originally posted by butchlambert:
I just can't get past the Miller ugly.

Just curious, is it the scope mount? Cuz while I don't totally agree, I can certainly see how it could be objectionable. Other than that I can't really see how anyone could complain. I mean they are classically stocked M-70s, and without the massive scope mount I'm guessing they'd be hard to distinguish from any other high end custom rifle...

I apologize. I confused them with another maker. I amended my post. I had still rather have an Echols.

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Originally posted by butchlambert:
I apologize. I confused them with another maker. I amended my post. I had still rather have an Echols.

Miller and Crum make a beautiful rifle that leaves no stone unturned. But I agree with you.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MR.MASKAYEV:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Woodhits:
If I'm not mistaken, D'Arcy Echols has a pre-owned .338 Win mag or .340 Weatherby Legend for sale (don't recall which) that I would personally prefer over either.

He can be reached at: Echolslegend@comcast.net[/QUOT

how is echols rifles compared to david millers?

I have a hard time imagining any gun better than one made by Echols. Compared to a Miller gun an Echols gun is a flat out bargain. Just my opinion, however.

Contact Dave Viers at black Diamond rifles and have him build you a lite weight .375 snipe tac